Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

[帅的一匹]

Type59 and Type69 dont share anything with MBT-2000 or AK-1. Just looking at the chasis , you know they are different things.

VT-4 is a new generation of tank compare to MBT-2000. The powerpack, lay out and combat system is a generation ahead of MBT-2000

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[Beast]

VT-4 powerpack is one piece just like western tank which means it can be swapped out and replace in less than an hour unlike old MBT-2000 where powerpack is spreadout. Making replacement of engine lengthy and can be completed only in half a day. (Do take note Ukraine Oplot M tank powerpack cannot be swapped out in less than an hour. Once the engine is out , it will need to be towed back and need at least a day to get the engine working again)

Handling a VT-4 is a simple as driving a car. Handling is important in combat as you need to evade shot and position quickly to counter attack.

VT-4 has 3+1 system. Attack, Defense, Mobility + Information Technology. Full network to whole combat system. Fast sharing information and share the same whole picture with other units.

 

[Signalian]

T-59, T-69, T-85 and AK/AK-1 share many commonalities, as mentioned below. And probably, VT-4 and AK series/MBT 2000 have similarities as well.
A hard kill APS, not the 'soft' ones.

You do know i'm talking from operational point of view. For old tanks its the different gun and then the engine, transmission, tracks etc. Then there are different specs in different types, like no mention of IBMS apart from AK series.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Why I can't see these pictures bro?

That's maybe of the China Wall... it's twitter image...
You know free speech blocker and such...

If you are out of China..;then tht's another problem...

 

[Gryphon]

You do know i'm talking from operational point of view. For old tanks its the different gun and then the engine, transmission, tracks etc. Then there are different specs in different types, like no mention of IBMS apart from AK series.

There are hundreds of components used in a tank, besides the engine and transmission. The book excerpt I posted just mentions that. I didn't mean to say they have the same engine or gun.
Still, there are commonalities between the AZ and AK series tanks like the 125mm gun which HIT manufactures.

GIDS offers an IBMS, and I see no reason why it can't be installed on new tanks acquired from China/Ukraine. Regards.

 

[Zarvan]

 

[princefaisal]

Its not about fail to face reality but simply too many nonsense and fake info floating around. Z-10 never has any engine problem. This rumour of Z-10 underpowered first started by CMF when they claim a redesigned of exhaust is due to US embargo of turboshaft to China... Therefore they redesigned the exhaust area to give more power to the underpowered engine. LOL... This reason is another no brainer. Why would PLA design their latest gunship with dependent on an engine that has no change to be sold to China since with US embargo enforced?

The truth is the redesign of exhaust got to do with muting the high level of noise of the engine so that Z-10 can be more stealthy when carrying out low level penetration and has more element of surprised. Nothing to do with BS underpowered nonsense. Check out the video of Z-10 low level fly pass during pakistan parade. You will know how quiet Z-10 is. This is critical especially in night low level attack where enemy will be too late to know your presence if the noise they produced is very low.

Z-10 stealth design seems better than T129.

 

[MadDog]

Calm down, Oplot M failed some of the test as well. It's a business between Pakistan and China, not you and Dazzler.

Exactly, In 1980s even M1 Abrams failed trials in Bahawalpur Desert Region due to extremly high temperatures. Simmilarly, Pakistan also demanded improvements for Oplot M after trials. Now improved VT4 is back for trials. Even Indian T-90s face technical difficulties in that desert region. It has extremly high temperatures. @Beast

 

[PDFChamp]

IHS Janes:

Land Platforms
Images suggest Pakistan Army may be testing Norinco VT4 MBT
Samuel Cranny-Evans - Jane's Defence Weekly
08 January 2018
Images have emerged on Chinese social media suggesting that the Pakistan Army (PA) may be testing the China North Industries Corporation (Norinco) VT4 main battle tank (MBT). Published on 6 January the photographs show PA personnel inspecting a VT4 platform at an undisclosed location.

The VT4 is a third-generation MBT offered for export by Norinco. It is an improvement over the Al-Khalid MBT (also known as MBT-2000), which is currently in service with the PA, although it retains the 125 mm main gun, carousel auto-loader, and crew configuration of the older vehicle.

The PA may be testing AVIC's VT4 MBT (seen here). (Via cjdby.net)

Among the key differentiating features are the thermal-imaging capabilities and panoramic sights of the VT4, which enhance the vehicle’s ability to operate at night or in poorly lit environments.

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[帅的一匹]

IHS Janes:

Land Platforms
Images suggest Pakistan Army may be testing Norinco VT4 MBT
Samuel Cranny-Evans - Jane's Defence Weekly
08 January 2018
Images have emerged on Chinese social media suggesting that the Pakistan Army (PA) may be testing the China North Industries Corporation (Norinco) VT4 main battle tank (MBT). Published on 6 January the photographs show PA personnel inspecting a VT4 platform at an undisclosed location.

The VT4 is a third-generation MBT offered for export by Norinco. It is an improvement over the Al-Khalid MBT (also known as MBT-2000), which is currently in service with the PA, although it retains the 125 mm main gun, carousel auto-loader, and crew configuration of the older vehicle.

The PA may be testing AVIC's VT4 MBT (seen here). (Via cjdby.net)

Among the key differentiating features are the thermal-imaging capabilities and panoramic sights of the VT4, which enhance the vehicle’s ability to operate at night or in poorly lit environments.

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It's design based on T99A2.

 

[Awan68]

Dazzler or anyone else could kindly explain that why did the US Abram failed in Bahawalpur desert, whereas saudia and kuwait owns and operates them and these countries are also extremely hot....

PA is a professional army with high end war doctrines and attention to little details connected with quality strategy and manoveours. The Saudis u mentioned are a rag tag .militia with fancy toys, they dont know the first thing about taking a machine to its full potential.

 

[帅的一匹]

The most important is VT4 has Battlefield situational awareness system. a key to find out your enemy before they lock on you.

The development of China and former Soviet Union countries' tanks are leading to different path, and Defenitely China is a big fan of American tank and more interested in information battlefield.

 

[YeBeWarned]

The most important is VT4 has Battlefield situational awareness system. a key to find out your enemy before they lock on you.

If PA decides to ditch Ukraine for Chinese MBT ( Al-Haider ) project, i will say go fot T-99A if available .. Is China manufacturing any 1500 HP engine for MBT ? if yes which one ? and is it available for export ?

 

[帅的一匹]

If PA decides to ditch Ukraine for Chinese MBT ( Al-Haider ) project, i will say go fot T-99A if available .. Is China manufacturing any 1500 HP engine for MBT ? if yes which one ? and is it available for export ?

Domestic CH1000 integrated engine compartment, can provide both 1300HP and 1500HP. For Pakistan, yes!

Man, Pakistan don't have to ditch Oplot M for VT4. You can make it both. Or using VT4 tech to improve AK tanks.

Thailand royal army had both Oplot M and VT4.

 

[Yukihime]

Just wondering about the current purchase cost for Al-khalid/MBT2000 in PA...
I read on some sayings it's actually around $4.0M, but need further confirmation, so anyone?

Also seems there are reports that main stream of PA is made of various modded T59s waiting to be replaced with appropriate options , while MBT2000s are mostly used by elite forces.
Considering a total number of 1200 tanks, would the old vs new ratio be close to 5:1 ?