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First, i seriously doubt if China even produces second generation thermal sights, especially those comparable to Catherine. Provide some info to prove me wrong but Al khalid is outfitted with Catherine and even thirf generation matis imagers. Do you know that Al khalid also uses Sagem Matis, a third generation thermal imager in some command mbts?
@DazzlerYEs, they do. All their Armatas, upgraded t-80s, 72s and 90s have French thermal imagers. Developing one is by no means easy but somehow China came up with second and even third generation TIs. Where is the data?
Xinhua:http://www.xinhuanet.com/mil/2018-01/10/c_129787467.htm
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January 10, 2018 15:15:07
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The picture shows an infrared image detected with a 2.7K x 2.7K infrared focal plane detector.
Recently, after overcoming a number of technical difficulties, 11 technical teams of China Electronics Division successfully developed short-wave and medium-wave single-chip 2.7K×2.7K infrared focal plane detectors, and carried out imaging demonstrations with good results. The successful development of the detector marks a major breakthrough in the development of three generations of super-large array infrared detectors by China Electronics, filling the domestic single-chip 2K×2K array scale infrared detector blank, representing the highest in the country and the world advanced. Level.
Infrared detection detects the thermal radiation of the target object itself, converts the difference between the temperature and the emissivity of the object into a video image signal, and obtains infrared imaging of the target object. It is a passive detection, which has good concealment, anti-interference, easy identification, camouflage, and rich information. Advantages, widely used in early warning detection, search and tracking, astronomical observation, remote sensing, maritime rescue, medicine and other fields.
Infrared focal plane detector is the core component of infrared imaging system. This short-wave and medium-wave single-chip 2.7K×2.7K detector is a high-sensitivity cooling infrared focal plane detector, involving materials, chips and integrated circuit design. Various disciplines such as refrigeration and packaging are extremely difficult. Previously, single-chip 2K×2K array-scale infrared focal plane detectors were only mastered by individual countries.
The successful development of China's electric short-wave and medium-wave single-chip 2.7K×2.7K infrared focal plane detectors has made China the second country to master this technology after the United States, which not only achieved zero breakthrough in domestic products. It has also established the Group's leading position in the development of third generation of super large array infrared detector components. (Wei Shuling, Shang Sujuan)
@Dazzler
I know.
Once again the T-14 does not use French thermal imagers. Kazan manufacturers domestic thermal imagers for both T-14 and T-15.
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Commander and gunner have their own displays; unique ones only found in T-14. The driver has one display that looks similar to those found on T-90. So far that display has shown none imagery information.
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The black display unit is clearly belongs to Thales TI.
Look at the display monitors... too close for comfort right?
Armata TI sight display..
Catherine FC onboard Al khalid during testing of reduced IR signature paint.
There is no difference between the two.
Rosoboronexport got hold of 1000 units from France back in 2008. Not all went into 80s and 90s.
Monitor(s)? The monitor on the drivers side is the same or similar to the ones found in T-90s and don't even appear like the ones Thales offers. Even if it was a French display the thermals are not French nor are the rest of the displays that commander and shooter have, which I will show again the difference because you still don't get it.
There is no difference between the two if you are blind. Your logic-- both have cross hairs, therefore they must be French. If you actually look closely the cross hairs are different, the box outside the crosshairs are different, ballistic information is different, font size is different, and the icon on the upper right hand side is missing on the Thales monitor. The actual displays are totally different too.
But yea other then that there is no difference
T-90 in Syria with Thales sight:
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T-14 with Kazan sight:
View attachment 494915
Totally the same
1000 units is not enough to equip:
T-90
T-90M
T-80BMV
T-72B3
T-14
T-15
Boomerang
Kurgantes-25
God must be raining down Thales sights because they seem to be everywhere:
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You spoke without knowing enough about the state of the T-14 or the Russian thermal sight industry, you have been throughly debunked and discredited but because you are too stubborn to admit your mistake, you keep on pushing ridiculous propaganda that you yourself know is weak. I have sources and proof, you have nothing. Your argument is posting two different monitors and claiming they are somehow the same depite the fact that they are are very different.
Once again, T-14 uses Kazan sight, let's compare the Kazan sight itself to the Thales one:
Kazan:
View attachment 494914
Thales:
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I guess the link below just means Kazan is lying, you have cracked the case. Kazan must have copied the Thales system but made it look totally different to fool people on the internet.
http://prokazan.ru/news/view/101756
Monitor(s)? The monitor on the drivers side is the same or similar to the ones found in T-90s and don't even appear like the ones Thales offers. Even if it was a French display the thermals are not French nor are the rest of the displays that commander and shooter have, which I will show again the difference because you still don't get it.
There is no difference between the two if you are blind. Your logic-- both have cross hairs, therefore they must be French. If you actually look closely the cross hairs are different, the box outside the crosshairs are different, ballistic information is different, font size is different, and the icon on the upper right hand side is missing on the Thales monitor. The actual displays are totally different too.
But yea other then that there is no difference
T-90 in Syria with Thales sight:
View attachment 494916
T-14 with Kazan sight:
View attachment 494915
Totally the same
1000 units is not enough to equip:
T-90
T-90M
T-80BMV
T-72B3
T-14
T-15
Boomerang
Kurgantes-25
God must be raining down Thales sights because they seem to be everywhere:
View attachment 494930
You spoke without knowing enough about the state of the T-14 or the Russian thermal sight industry, you have been throughly debunked and discredited but because you are too stubborn to admit your mistake, you keep on pushing ridiculous propaganda that you yourself know is weak. I have sources and proof, you have nothing. Your argument is posting two different monitors and claiming they are somehow the same depite the fact that they are are very different.
Once again, T-14 uses Kazan sight, let's compare the Kazan sight itself to the Thales one:
Kazan:
View attachment 494914
Thales:
View attachment 494917
I guess the link below just means Kazan is lying, you have cracked the case. Kazan must have copied the Thales system but made it look totally different to fool people on the internet.
http://prokazan.ru/news/view/101756