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Pakistan army soldier martyred by firing from Afghan Taliban

You're speaking out of emotion, Afghanistan has relevance and must be sorted with a level head.

Economically we can access Central Asian markets and land through Afghanistan, and politically both countries have significant relevance for several reasons.

Pakistan must build significant leverage against Afghanistan, and attempt to sort issues diplomatically.


oye chutiya so afghanistans only economic relevence is providing pak export market to central asia? that isnt really an economic benefit more of a geographical one which we can simply negate by annexing the wakkan corridor.

The wakkan corridor itself was given to afghanistan by china which had its own border dispute over the area. The chinese have in recent years fully supported the idea of Pakistan annexing this region so we are not continuously blackmailed by bacha baazis.

Since last 75 years the bacha baaz have economically blackmailed pakistan, whether it is the TAPI pipeline, highways access to central asia, railroad projects, etc... every form of economic blackmail used by taliban and previous governments. To hell with the blackmail. If these afghunis want to eat cockroaches why should we be forced to as well?

We simply DO NOT NEED ANYTHING from afghanistan other than economic access to central asia which we can get via military operations itself!
 
First make Afghanistan reliant on Pakistan so you have conventional leverage

I don’t think this attacker did this on the behalf of the Taliban. He jeopardized the livliehood of many Afghans.

If he is a part of the Taliban, he will be handed over to our military, but something tells me he had different motivations.
 
I don’t think this attacker did this on the behalf of the Taliban. He jeopardized the livliehood of many Afghans.

If he is a part of the Taliban, he will be handed over to our military, but something tells me he had different motivations.


Taliban ran away when he fired the shot. He is much older guy doesn't look like a part of Taliban
 
oye chutiya so afghanistans only economic relevence is providing pak export market to central asia? that isnt really an economic benefit more of a geographical one which we can simply negate by annexing the wakkan corridor.

The wakkan corridor itself was given to afghanistan by china which had its own border dispute over the area. The chinese have in recent years fully supported the idea of Pakistan annexing this region so we are not continuously blackmailed by bacha baazis.

Since last 75 years the bacha baaz have economically blackmailed pakistan, whether it is the TAPI pipeline, highways access to central asia, railroad projects, etc... every form of economic blackmail used by taliban and previous governments. To hell with the blackmail. If these afghunis want to eat cockroaches why should we be forced to as well?

We simply DO NOT NEED ANYTHING from afghanistan other than economic access to central asia which we can get via military operations itself!
Whatever type of benefit you want to label it as, it's one that comes from Afghanistan.

Annexing lands today is easier said than done, I don't know how you plan to handle the political backlash and then the proceeding insurgency which will be justified in many people's eyes. (Even within Pakistan)

And I'm well aware of the habits of Afghans and do not like them myself, but actions have consequences.
 
Whatever type of benefit you want to label it as, it's one that comes from Afghanistan.

Annexing lands today is easier said than done, I don't know how you plan to handle the political backlash and then the proceeding insurgency which will be justified in many people's eyes. (Even within Pakistan)

And I'm well aware of the habits of Afghans and do not like them myself, but actions have consequences.

It would be an under the table annex. Simply occupy the land. Deny it was us internationally. Behind closed doors China/US/Europe would provide full support. Central asian countries would also be onboard.

Another option would be a land swap once occupied. We could swap the same amount of land lets say on the balochistan border for the Wakkan corridor. But negotiations cannot start until this useless military does something for the country for damn once!
 
Why just strikes? we should punish these bacha baaz with our own special military operation. Send a few thousand soldiers backed by tanks, IFVS, helis, drones, and air strikes into jalalabad/kandahar. Level the taliban strongholds to the ground and retreat back into Pak. Annex the wakkan corridor fully in the northern sector as well.

Who the hell cares about taliban or civilian casualties? these afghunis will hate us regardless of casualties or not.

We need to punish them severely so they will think million times before attacking our forces. The level of punishment must be so severe that it wont make sense for them. As of now they have an inventive to attack our forces knowing full well that we have our hands tied and wont retaliate due to mir bajwa al belgium.

The afghunis will never forget the lesson for next thousand years.
I swear to God I have never seen a country in the world as heavily armed as Pakistan and still so impotent to use arms.

There is a reason why they do not try this shit with Iran for example.
 
In a utopian reality Pakistan would have under whatever pretext annexed the Wakhan corridor and then basically made the Afghan border a shoot on sight for anyone even poking their head in view outside of the designated crossings.
 
It would be an under the table annex. Simply occupy the land. Deny it was us internationally. Behind closed doors China/US/Europe would provide full support. Central asian countries would also be onboard.

Another option would be a land swap once occupied. We could swap the same amount of land lets say on the balochistan border for the Wakkan corridor. But negotiations cannot start until this useless military does something for the country for damn once!
You need foot soldiers and troop presence to occupy a territory, it's not realistic to just deny it straight up and without it being officially recognised there's only so much you can do.

Pakistan could attempt to formally purchase the land from Afghanistan and have China help apply pressure but even then IEA has a tribalistic mentality and they cannot accept handing over land, and that land also connects them with China so it's somewhat useful.

Pakistan should try to negotiate the purchase of that strip of land

In a utopian reality Pakistan would have under whatever pretext annexed the Wakhan corridor and then basically made the Afghan border a shoot on sight for anyone even poking their head in view outside of the designated crossings.
Won't happen as even internally people of Pakistan would be against it, mainly those from KP.

And also being that bold would help having a powerful economy behind you and governance model.
 
I swear to God I have never seen a country in the world as heavily armed as Pakistan and still so impotent to use arms.

There is a reason why they do not try this shit with Iran for example.

Exactly. Look at iran. They had a suicide bomb kill only 6 people and they bombed the hell out of the kurds today. We are regularly losing hundreds if people in suicide attacks yet have not done crape in last 20 years. Hell even a country like ethiopia has more self respect than us. They invaded all of somalia once al shabab started targetting their poor country.

Yet we have imbeciles state, oh we are so poor we cant afford war or oh wait a few years until we get so and so shiny weapon then well deal with the afghans… hell it has been 2 decades listening to the same whiny poops on pdf and now this forum. This is the aukat of pakistanis.

What good is money or brand new weapons if your aukat is that cant even stand up to bunch of bacha baaz cavemen? Simply put name 1 nuclear nation in history that took so much beating? I feel shameful as a pakistani tbh.

Today we have hundreds of drones. Where is the action????
 
Sir jee kal strikes on Talib strongholds are needed. There’s no need to attack indiscriminately
 
They need to fire back with drone or airstrike and close the border atleast 3 weeks
Let local population understand that there are severe economic and security issues with these kinds of shnannigans that will take away the support.

And you need to bruise the false ego make them desperate so they make more and more mistakes .must fire back and very publically
 
It’s about time PA lobs some TOWs across the border. This is the 7th such incident. Our soldiers blood is not cheap.

Honestly, Pakistan needs to apply pressure on Kabul the conventional way.

Some dogs only understand the language of the stone and the cane.
You can cry as much as you want...
Fauj can shoot ex prime minister in the country...
Hide ubl near apex military academy but cannot defend black ops...

Bomb tribal areas ...

But can never go after few terrorists attacking from across the border.

Their gallantry deflates at the border.
 
The filthy attacker looks like from another outfit probably TTP, the other Taliban looked shocked.
Sighs....Why are the troops standing so close to them, this is a hostile region with many dangerous terrorists mixing in at will. There should be big walls, mounted cannons etc.

Allah bless our fallen brother.
 

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