Pakistan Army receives six Cessna aircraft from US

[jhungary]

few of them will definitely converted for VIP transport . for med evacuation helis are much better . you cant land this plane on a mountain ridge in NWA or kashmir or siachin.

Actually, chopper are best at CASEVAC, not MEDIEVAC, there are two stage of Evacuation of Wounded Soldier (EWS), the first leg is to evac them from the point of incident to a casualty clearing station or casualty collection point, there you will perform basic life saving and stabilisation on the wounded, then the second stage is that they will be batch evacuated to a role 3 field hospital or a fully function role 4 hospital.

Small utilities helicopter can take 1 or 2 casualty at best in a short distant. While plane like this can carry 4-5 stretcher or maybe more (depending on how you configure your aircraft) It would not be economical to perform the second stage with a helicopter, and unless you have a field hospital every 100 mile within your AO, you have to find a way to clear as much patient to a hospital as quickly as possible. In the US Army, this is done either via a CH-47 or CH-53 or via USAF C-130.

 

[litman]

Actually, chopper are best at CASEVAC, not MEDIEVAC, there are two stage of Evacuation of Wounded Soldier (EWS), the first leg is to evac them from the point of incident to a casualty clearing station or casualty collection point, there you will perform basic life saving and stabilisation on the wounded, then the second stage is that they will be batch evacuated to a role 3 field hospital or a fully function role 4 hospital.

Small utilities helicopter can take 1 or 2 casualty at best in a short distant. While plane like this can carry 4-5 stretcher or maybe more (depending on how you configure your aircraft) It would not be economical to perform the second stage with a helicopter, and unless you have a field hospital every 100 mile within your AO, you have to find a way to clear as much patient to a hospital as quickly as possible. In the US Army, this is done either via a CH-47 or CH-53 or via USAF C-130.

dear i know the traditions of my country.
pak doesnt have depth . major cantonments are there close to indian border with military hospitals and helicopter will cover the distance in less then an hour. secondly helipads can be built in every military hosp but air strip is not possible. so evacuating patients through air plane will take more time as you need to evac the injured first to the air strip then they will be taken to a major cantonment with an air strip and then taken to hosp on ambulances. in case of india -pak full scale war power point planning wont work. the number of injured and the dead will be so great on both sides of the border that all the medical resources will be consumed in first week of war. for such a scenario we need to prepare like russia and china have done. building underground safety homes and food depots and reserve medical resources. but for such a planning we need to have a leader with vision, loyalty etc which we seriously lack.

 

[jhungary]

dear i know the traditions of my country.
pak doesnt have depth . major cantonments are there close to indian border with military hospitals and helicopter will cover the distance in less then an hour. secondly helipads can be built in every military hosp but air strip is not possible. so evacuating patients through air plane will take more time as you need to evac the injured first to the air strip then they will be taken to a major cantonment with an air strip and then taken to hosp on ambulances. in case of india -pak full scale war power point planning wont work. the number of injured and the dead will be so great on both sides of the border that all the medical resources will be consumed in first week of war. for such a scenario we need to prepare like russia and china have done. building underground safety homes and food depots and reserve medical resources. but for such a planning we need to have a leader with vision, loyalty etc which we seriously lack.

It does not work that way. You only goes underground if you have more manpower than the other side, the Example you quote is all when they have man power over technological power, Russia is out numbering German at least 4 to 1, China outnumber the US 3 to 1, Vietnam outnumber the US at 10 to 1.

When you go underground, you de-centralize your resource, which mean it will take you longer time to account for and stock the resource, because you cannot drive or fly underground. That mean everything you need to count and stock, you will need to do it with people, you bring your people inside those cave and work them as labourer.

Another problem associated with underground facilities is that they are usually sub-par, which mean you will suffer a high casualty rate if they are not going to be able to recycle many of them.

For a numeric inferior force, you need to centralize your supply to make it efficient. Otherwise you will face a problem on keeping track on which cave have what, and under those cave, you cannot resupply as if you are above ground, and in the end, if this is how Pakistan planning to fought in an eventual India-Pakistan war, you will lose because you simply have less manpower than India.

It's not about strategic depth, but how you pool your resource in when you are fighting

 

[Imran Khan]