Pakistan army purchased Bombardier Global 5000

[imadul]

Well you do need a lecture when you come round to discuss railways sleeper class in a thread about army aviation's new purchase.
Where that thought came from? Obviously the evident hate against the Pakistan military.
It matters not if your dad served in the army. He didn't teach you well about the army and how to support your own country's army.
What a shame.

But you did not explain why generals have to travel in these jets? What strategic or tactical advantage PA will get? After all PA is not a la Pentagon!
Or Army further on the footsteps of the likes of Egyptian army?

 

[Myth_buster_1]

But you did not explain why generals have to travel in these jets? What strategic or tactical advantage PA will get? After all PA is not a la Pentagon!
Or Army further on the footsteps of the likes of Egyptian army?

Each of these VIP jets will serve at least 30-40 years which is about a million dollars a year. If they travel by car then they will require security (Pakistan is not US where generals can travel by metro without fear of getting shot) which will cost them more then then flying 5 or so generals at a time.
And Army without generals is a headless chicken.

 

[Yasser76]

But you did not explain why generals have to travel in these jets? What strategic or tactical advantage PA will get? After all PA is not a la Pentagon!
Or Army further on the footsteps of the likes of Egyptian army?

Generals and Government VIPs need secure, reliable and safe transport. If you look at every country it has biz jets in it's Army or Air Force. This does not make Pakistan special.

PIA cannot just keep a 777 on standby whenever Pak Army requires it or offload passengers. We may as well just give the 777 to PAF in first place.

As I mentioned earlier we need

1) Plane available 24/7 for trips should need arise
2) Secure communications on the plane
3) Good pilots

 

[imadul]

Each of these VIP jets will serve at least 30-40 years which is about a million dollars a year. If they travel by car then they will require security (Pakistan is not US where generals can travel by metro without fear of getting shot) which will cost them more then then flying 5 or so generals at a time.
And Army without generals is a headless chicken.

Despite these reason this would not go well with citizens of the country who are the biggest stake holders in the country.
They already feel disenfranchised.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Put Jammer inside

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Its not for VIP transport.

AWACS /EirEye ER ?

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Despite these reason this would not go well with citizens of the country who are the biggest stake holders in the country.
They already feel disenfranchised.

They are useless awam whose only job is to make kids and complain about everything and blame everybody but themselves for their own faults.
Military being the most important branch of government in Pakistan, they deserve to treat themselves with higher standards.
And dont expect generals to sit on riksaws like rest of awam to go to work.

 

[ghazi52]

They are useless awam whose only job is to make kids and complain about everything and blame everybody but themselves for their own faults.
Military being the most important branch of government in Pakistan, they deserve to treat themselves with higher standards.
And dont expect generals to sit on riksaws like rest of awam to go to work.

Well said.

 

[ghazi52]

If they did like this

 

[imadul]

They are useless awam whose only job is to make kids and complain about everything and blame everybody but themselves for their own faults.
Military being the most important branch of government in Pakistan, they deserve to treat themselves with higher standards.
And dont expect generals to sit on riksaws like rest of awam to go to work.

Your disdain, contempt, and swagger towards citizenry is disgraceful, flagrant, and humiliating.
Generals are neither demigods, or kings, or oligarchs. PA does not need silly friends who looked down upon people. These are same people who provide every paisa for these luxury planes and for every bullet.
Whatever be reason of your hubris, it is disdainful.
May Allah give you some humility and empathy.

 

[CriticalThought]

Your disdain, contempt, and swagger towards citizenry is disgraceful, flagrant, and humiliating.
Generals are neither demigods, or kings, or oligarchs. PA does not need silly friends who looked down upon people. These are same people who provide every paisa for these luxury planes and for every bullet.
Whatever be reason of your hubris, it is disdainful.
May Allah give you some humility and empathy.

Aameen

 

[HAIDER]

nope pakistan army also have few other aircraft as below

Bombardier CL-600 Challenger 604/605.

Cessna 560 Citation V

Beechcraft B300 King Air 350

904

901

Cessna 208B Grand Caravan

700

703

704

705

Cessna 206H Stationair

Gulfstream American 690C Jetprop 840

harbin Y-12

aik or sir ji ..

 

[Imran Khan]

aik or sir ji ..

We mention it before bro

 

[PAR 5]

They are useless awam whose only job is to make kids and complain about everything and blame everybody but themselves for their own faults.
Military being the most important branch of government in Pakistan, they deserve to treat themselves with higher standards.
And dont expect generals to sit on riksaws like rest of awam to go to work.

It is this exact thought process that is the reasons of all Pakistani ill's today. Absolutely disgusting, disgraceful, brainless and condemnable attitude.

 

[Shabi1]

Bombardier Global 5000 with serial number PA-9834 of photographed in Pakistan on June 3, 2020. This aircraft was built in 2018 and its construction number is 9834. Serial numbers issued to Pakistani military aircraft sometimes include aircraft's serial/construction number.

Could this aircraft have any relation to PNs LRMP tender other then the MTW all other specs seem appropriate and this platform is also used for Saab Globaleye (Erieye). from what i can find Loiter is 3.5hr on station with max 10hr total. Being a used aircraft, might have been bought with modifications in mind.

https://quwa.org/2020/03/01/pakistan-navy-seeks-platform-for-long-range-anti-sub-aircraft-2/
PAKISTAN NAVY SEEKS PLATFORM FOR LONG-RANGE ANTI-SUB AIRCRAFT
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On 10 January 2020, the Pakistan Navy (PN) released a tender for one twin-engine jet-powered aircraft it will use as a platform for its next-generation long-range maritime patrol aircraft (LRMPA).

In its documentation, the PN outlined that it requires the aircraft to fall within the following parameters:

• Maximum Take-Off Weight (MTOW): 120,000 lbs to 140,000 lbs
• Ferry Range: 4,000+ nautical miles
• Total Length: 120 ft or less
• Wingspan: 112 ft or less
• Maximum Take-Off/Landing Distance: 7,000 ft
• Service Ceiling: 40,000 ft to 50,000 ft

The PN wants bidders to offer aircraft in a clean configuration, i.e., ‘as-is’ if the aircraft is a passenger or a VIP/executive transport. Moreover, the aircraft “should have no design deviations from the OEM specified basic configuration and should conform to OEM’s original structural design.”

The aircraft “should be suitable for subsequent modification as LRMP” capable of the following missions:

• Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR)
• Anti-Surface Warfare (ASuW)
• Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW)
• Airborne Early Warning (AEW)

The LRMPA configuration will also be able to support secondary roles, including asymmetrical threats or challenges, search-and-rescue, training, and transport.

Finally, the PN requires that the aircraft’s ‘major components’ – i.e., engines, flight control system, flight navigation and other instrumentation, landing gears and others – be completely free of ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) restrictions. In other words, 100% clear of restricted US-origin systems.

However, the aircraft must also benefit from worldwide adoption, specifically with a minimum 100 orders as well as “worldwide commercial MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul) support” for its engines, flight instruments, air conditioning, auxiliary power units (APU), and other critical components.

The PN Chief of Naval Staff (CNS), Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi, outlined the service arm’s requirement for a new LRMPA in 2018, namely as a successor to the venerable – but aging – P-3C Orion. The CNS had stated that the PN was open to acquiring a next-generation solution “from any source, including the US.”[1]

Based on the information in the tender, it appears that the PN is moving ahead with a custom solution…

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