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I stand corrected, I read the book back in 2000, memory is failing me.Kudos sir
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I stand corrected, I read the book back in 2000, memory is failing me.Kudos sir
Yes it's true that Pakistani special forces and spetsnaz clashed, but Pakistanis didn't far well, despite the propaganda. I also have family that was in that war including a KGB colonel so I may know a little more then you...
Back to topic, your article is the worst propaganda ever. The Soviets would just airlift its soldiers out if defeat was ever imminent and superior airpower and artillery would make it impossible that 3000 Paratroopers and Spetsnaz died. There were 39 Soviet paratroopers that fought up to 400 Pakistani special forces, the Russians came away with 6 killed, the Pakistanis with up to 250 killed.
There was 16 Russian special forces in Syria that battles 300+ jihadists armed with tanks, ATGMs, armored bulldozers, APCs and mortars and the Russian special forces suffered zero casualties.
Your claim is rededicolous, Russian clearly have better trained forces, more experience and more assets, so 3000 Spetsnaz dying is beyond stupid.
Hazrat finally a Pakistani soldier with his hands on a ak-103
Frankly speaking sir neither account seems plausible in the least, yours and ours.KudosYes it's true that Pakistani special forces and spetsnaz clashed, but Pakistanis didn't far well, despite the propaganda. I also have family that was in that war including a KGB colonel so I may know a little more then you...
Back to topic, your article is the worst propaganda ever. The Soviets would just airlift its soldiers out if defeat was ever imminent and superior airpower and artillery would make it impossible that 3000 Paratroopers and Spetsnaz died. There were 39 Soviet paratroopers that fought up to 400 Pakistani special forces, the Russians came away with 6 killed, the Pakistanis with up to 250 killed.
There was 16 Russian special forces in Syria that battles 300+ jihadists armed with tanks, ATGMs, armored bulldozers, APCs and mortars and the Russian special forces suffered zero casualties.
Your claim is rededicolous, Russian clearly have better trained forces, more experience and more assets, so 3000 Spetsnaz dying is beyond stupid.
Hazrat finally a Pakistani soldier with his hands on a ak-103
they sale guns and small arms since long times sirAfter Choppers it seems like Russians wanna sell some Kalashnikov to Pak Army.
what else Pakistan has in its inventory from Russia? I know of some Mi choppers & transport aircraft.they sale guns and small arms since long times sir
there is long list i made few years ago sirwhat else Pakistan has in its inventory from Russia? I know of some Mi choppers & transport aircraft.
That good, I believe closeness between Pak & Russia may help us ease tension between between our both nations.there is long list i made few years ago sir
small arms
RPGs
snipers
AA guns
choppers
APCs
thunder engines
il-76s via ukrine
We already have russian AKs and Machine Guns.After Choppers it seems like Russians wanna sell some Kalashnikov to Pak Army.
yeah but shamefully we have relations of thousands of years we should not need helpThat good, I believe closeness between Pak & Russia may help us ease tension between between our both nations.
Sadly our politicians have kept this matter alive for winning elections. jisse ye siyasi rotian sek sake. & Whats happening on LOC since 2000 thousands of troops from both side martyred which haven't been even in a war.yeah but shamefully we have relations of thousands of years we should not need help
That page is from Aukai Collins book, not Pak authors.Right, so the SSG would "likely suffer no casualties" yet many Pakistanis believe that SSG took out an entire brigade of VDV and Spetsnaz backed with artillery and airpower. If Pakistan dropped a nuclear weapon on those Soviet positions then it is plausible but that never happened.
A number of Soviet soldiers including Spetsnaz have admitted to clashes with Pakistani special forces during the Afghan war, Soviet forces even raided Pakistani compounds inside Pakistan.
Pakistani SSG would regularly fight amongst regular 'mujahadeen' and it wasn't difficult to identify them either spesnaz alway search dead bodies for identification including collecting body parts for processing. Some years ago I also read of a Spetsnaz accidentally crossing into Pakistan where they actually suffered some fairly bad losses but the Pakistanis didn't do well either.
LOC killings are pointless.Sadly our politicians have kept this matter alive for winning elections. jisse ye siyasi rotian sek sake. & Whats happening on LOC since 2000 thousands of troops from both side martyred which haven't been even in a war.
That is good.I know for a fact that among Intel/Special Forces soldiers are a number of fluent Russian speakers. To the extent that they could communicate in colecual Russian and slang.