Pakistan Army Aviation Corps - Updated

[S-A-B-E-R->]

any one remember the pic of black hawks in the same formation befor desert storm it was cool

 

[Jango]

any one remember the pic of black hawks in the same formation befor desert storm it was cool

yup, this is a very patriotic kind of pic.

 

[Jango]

I imagine it is to stabilise the cobra during its flight under the Mi17.


+ any info behind the pic? What happened to the cobra?


Cool pic though- didn't think a Mi-17 could lift a Cobra, I guess you learn somthing new everyday!!

the cobra was hit by bullets about 2-3 years back by militants, hence it needed to be airlifted, the parachute is called drogue to keep the cobra in a straight line during flight, it was airlifted from swat to risalpur, then on a C-130 from risalpur to multan.

 

[fatman17]

as 'spares' for the cobra fleet dry up......
......a short-term replacement below


Z-9W/WA/WE/WZ Daulphin


Z-9W is the first indigenous anti-armor attack helicopter devrived from the license-built AS-365N. Its main armament are four KD-8 wire-guided ATGMs (range 600-3,000m, armor penetration >800mm). Besides anti-tank missiles, it can carry also two 57mm/90mm rocket pods, or two 12.7mm machine gun pods, or two 23mm cannons, or four TY-90 IR-guided AAMs. The helicopter wears a combat camouflage but is lightly armored. It also lacks effective counter-measures against IR and laser guided SAMs. However one prototype has been fitted with an IRCM system (similar to American AN/ALQ-144) behind the main rotor. A roof-mounted optical sight provides the means for searching and tracking in daylight. Its maximum take-off weight is 4,100kg, maximum speed 315km, maximum range 664km and ceiling 4,220m. The first prototype of Z-9W flew in 1989 and dozens have been produced (S/N LH959xx, 969xx, 979xx, 989xx, 999xx). Some Z-9Ws feature redesigned engine intakes with improved dust filters. An further improved night-attack version dubbed Z-9WA similar to AS 565CA Panther was developed in 2000 featuring more powerful engines and a new stub wing which can carry up to 8 KD-8 or KD-10 ATGMs, PL-90 or even FN-6 AAMs. Its nose is redesigned to carry a low-light TV/IRST turret (YY-1?) for night missions, with RWR antennas installed on both sides. A mast-mounted sight (or an MMW radar) prototype was also developed. Z-9WA has a better armor protection in the cockpit area, a flare launcher, datalink and a redesigned NVG compatible cockpit. An air data sensor is installed on the starborad side of the cabin. A large datalink antenna is installed underneath the boom. Z-9WAs have been entering service with the Army Aviation (S/N LH919xx, 929xx, 939xx, 949xx, 959xx, 969XX, 979XX, 989xx, 999xx, 9109xx) since early 2005 as a stop-gap measure until Z-10/Z-19 (see below) enters the service. A recon version (Z-9WZ) was also developed and it first flew on December 29, 2004. This variant carries light machine guns instead of the heavier ATGMs. PLAAF also took delivery of a few Z-9WZs in 2007 (S/N 609x, 619x, 60x2x). Some of them are equipped with loudspeakers and a search light for SAR purpose. A similar variant (Z-9ZH) is also in service with the PLAAF unit stationed in Hong Kong (S/N 620x). It was reported that two Z-9WEs were delivered to Kenya in 2010, marking the first export success of this helicopter.
- Last Updated 7/11/11

 

[SQ8]

Why not just go straight for the Z-10??
Why wait for an interim.. use up the Ah-1's in the WoT.. cannibalize or whatever.
Go brand new for the main req in the east.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Why not just go straight for the Z-10??
Why wait for an interim.. use up the Ah-1's in the WoT.. cannibalize or whatever.
Go brand new for the main req in the east.

Z-9s are a good option. They would be cheap with hopefully cheap spare parts chain as well as a very good chance of making critical spare parts in house with the help of infrastructure development from Chinese.

Z-9s can be used by the Navy, Air Force as well as the Army.

The attack version of the Z-9 can become a transport version too whenever required, so in current situation it will have 2 uses for us. When you need for transport, just strip the weapons and when need for attack get the weapons back on.

Navy has already started to use them, Air Force can order them too as well as the Army. Its a versatile platform.

And we can order separate Z-10s as a dedicated platform.

Z-9s can be used as attack version in case of emergency.

 

[fatman17]

Z-9s are a good option. They would be cheap with hopefully cheap spare parts chain as well as a very good chance of making critical spare parts in house with the help of infrastructure development from Chinese.

Z-9s can be used by the Navy, Air Force as well as the Army.

The attack version of the Z-9 can become a transport version too whenever required, so in current situation it will have 2 uses for us. When you need for transport, just strip the weapons and when need for attack get the weapons back on.

Navy has already started to use them, Air Force can order them too as well as the Army. Its a versatile platform.

And we can order separate Z-10s as a dedicated platform.

Z-9s can be used as attack version in case of emergency.

sure, when the engine issues are resolved!

 

[SQ8]

Commonality with the Navy is a good incentive.. however, only the operational performance of the Z-9 with the Navy will give us the actual idea.
A Z-9's combat load is what matters... if it can still carry say around eight or ten ATGM's.. and its own reload ammo in the cabin along with two mech's/gunners.
its actually a very effective platform.

 

[fatman17]

Commonality with the Navy is a good incentive.. however, only the operational performance of the Z-9 with the Navy will give us the actual idea.
A Z-9's combat load is what matters... if it can still carry say around eight or ten ATGM's.. and its own reload ammo in the cabin along with two mech's/gunners.
its actually a very effective platform.

from the data, it seems quite versatile. 6 Z9ec's are in the ASW role with 6 on order (not confirmed) - CAS, SAR, light-lift are some of the other roles it can perform besides the anti-armour role.

 

[Areesh]

By the way here is a thread about Z-19. A variant of Z-9 used as light attack helicopter.

Z-19 Light Attack Helicopter unveiled?

While PN is using Z-9ec PA can go for this variant.

 

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[fatman17]

notice the direlict Mi-9 forward of the Mi-17!

 

[Jango]

notice the direlict Mi-9 forward of the Mi-17!

It is Mi-8 i believe.