Pakistan Army Aviation Corps - Updated

[Last Hope]

No CH47Fs. No Chinooks.

We are not getting them.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Pakistan and south korea have been in talk with USA for 15 CH47F chinooks

Strange, India is in final stages of closing a deal for an identical number of exact same version ("F"). Confusion maybe?

 

[fatman17]

Strange, India is in final stages of closing a deal for an identical number of exact same version ("F"). Confusion maybe?

from the US. these are used examples. pl continue your normal business.

 

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AS-330.

 

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[Nishan_101]

No CH47Fs. No Chinooks.

We are not getting them.

Really its just because of our bad plans and US influence. We should have tried to negotiate on 30 Mi-26 if we really need a heavy lift helicopter.

 

[Nishan_101]

Although we have some good ones, But the reality is that PA should have ordered some 50-70 new Mi-17 V5s from Russian to replace the old ones which could be sold, when we had good relations and a good deal of money in our hands. Although we have good relations with Russians now but the money isn't there. More over we should also look towards the 35-50 EH-101 to replace the Puma's. We can easily gain money by selling the old ones and putting them in buying new ones or creating a better facility for maintainence of the choppers. Then we would have a decent fleet of 120 Helicopters.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

These sand bangs are tie-downs?

 

[Blackpearl]

These sand bangs are tie-downs?

Cobra has six points for attachment of tie down ropes, three on each side of fuselage, it is not tied down by sand bags.
This particular helo must have suffered a hard landing, thus causing its two cross tubes over skids to expand beyond its elastic limit and suffer permanent deflection/deformation. Also the part of underbody where cross tubes are attached, must have suffered stresses. The permanent deflection of cross tubes has reduced the ground clearance of underbody and ground, thats why a single bag fits easily underneath the fuseladge. Cobra has high CG, thus making it bit unstabe while on ground, so sand bags are there to keep it from toppling on either side.
Also note a yellow colour blade stand, underneath the stub wing tip, i think it is to keep the aircraft alignment, so that it does not droop to either side.

 

[Last Hope]

These sand bangs are tie-downs?

No. The helicopter is damaged possibly due to the rough terrain of landing or just came back after maintenance.

 

[Inception-06]

What the Army has to do is too reduce the number of different Helicopter Types.

The older Mi-8 and Mi-17 should be overhauled and upgraded with 12,7mm Guns. The same with all older Bell and UH-1 Types. The Pumas are overhauled and need only a machiene Gun Position at the side door. So the Army Aviation could have a mixed fleet of ca. 120 Mi-17, Bell-41EP, UH-1, and PUMA helicopters. This is enough for a Airborne-assault Brigade ! But the reality is that some are parked in Quetta and some are in service with the Air Force or in VIP Duty and PA has not enough funds, because Pakistan was not able in the last 50 years to build up a strong economy like India or Turkey ! Thats the reason why we cant buy more Helicopters or upgrade the older ones........

 

[Inception-06]

The Current Versions of every Transport Helicopter in service with the Pakistan Army, Navy or Air Force were unamrmed and were dilivered unarmed, even the Mi-17 of Bangladesh have weapons and armour. What the Pakistani Helicopters need is fighting equipment like night Vision, Board Guns etc. But we have even not $$ to continue the production in TAXILA of the APC, Tanks, Bullet proof vests etc. we need many things but, becuse of missmanagement our Soldiers are dying at the frontline, our jets and Helicopters are falling every month..........

You guyz are talking not only in thiss forum but also ********************* and pakdef since 3 years that Pakistan will get new Cobras, Pakistan will buy this and that nothing is happen, we have get only 14 Cobras that was all, nothing more 14 ! 14 for fighting a war since 2001....pure idiots in Islamabad !


Where are the Cobras we neeeeddd them at the frontline ! We have lost 5-7 since 2001 ! We need more firesupport ! What we get are only numbers on paper ! Really sad but true.

 

[Nishan_101]

Although if we had look closely towards the PAC for the joint development of Helicopters with CHINA then the situation might be quite different from now.
Like we could have:
PA:110 Mi-17s, 70 Bell-412/Lynx and 70 Bell-407 Classes type choppers
PAF:21 Mi-17s, 11 Bell-412/Lynx and 7 Bell-407 Classes type choppers
PN:21 Mi-17s, 15 Bell-412/Lynx and 7 Bell-407 Classes type choppers

From classes, I mean that weight and type not the actual ones. Like JV with China on new design and new concept(Like Kamov like rotors).

 

[TaimiKhan]

Yesterday i was passing by the Psh Airport and just in time to see a Bell-412 fly away.

To my amazement i saw a EO pod right in the middle of the nose, just like the below pic:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vyEfVj4ZM...phibious_assault_ship_USS_Peleliu_(LHA_5).jpg

This is something new and a very good development.