Pakistan Army Aviation Corps - Updated

[fatman17]

That is why I am saying Pakistan needs to go for helicopters from China or with TOT and start producing them in Pakistan so we can repair them to in Pakistan. @fatman17

For helos repair and overhaul facilities makes sense as the overall helo requirements are limited unlike fixed wing.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

For helos repair and overhaul facilities makes sense as the overall helo requirements are limited unlike fixed wing.

Is it not possible for others like Rescue and Medical emergencies helicopters can be manufactured in Pakistan?

 

[nomi007]

after today incident
PAA need some western cargo helos for vip moments
probably 6-8
like
ch-47
ch-53
CH-149
AgustaWestland AW101

mil mi-17/8 are not trusty

 

[fatman17]

after today incident
PAA need some western cargo helos for vip moments
probably 6-8
like
ch-47
ch-53
CH-149
AgustaWestland AW101

mil mi-17/8 are not trusty

So you mean western helos don't crash

 

[nomi007]

So you mean western helos don't crash

their crash rate is less than russian
2nd
they are easy to maintain

my grandpa was engineer in paa

he told me that russian helos engine failure ratio was a big problem

 

[RAMPAGE]

@fatman17

Any infrared countermeasure system installed on our Mi 17s?

 

[nomi007]

@fatman17

Any infrared countermeasure system installed on our Mi 17s?

most of them have

but this is totally technical fault

waise aj kal america kafi mehraban hai pakistan pe
pakistan america ko keh he de k koi 6-8 ch-53 ya ch-47
de de afghanistan inventory se

 

[RAMPAGE]

most of them have

but this is totally technical fault

waise aj kal america kafi mehraban hai pakistan pe
pakistan america ko keh he de k koi 6-8 ch-53 ya ch-47
de de afghanistan inventory se

Why would you even suggest such a thing?

 

[fatman17]

Seven Killed in Pakistan Army Mi-17 Crash

Posted on 8 May, 2015


A Pakistan Army Mi-17 crashed today in the north of the country, killing seven of those on board. AFD-Alan Warnes

A PAKISTAN Army Mi-17 has crashed, killing seven of those on board. The fatalities included the ambassadors of Norway (Leif Larsen) and the Philippines (Domingo D Lucenario Jr), the wives of the ambassadors of Indonesia and Malaysia, plus the two pilots (Major Altamish and Major Faisal) and one other crew member. The helicopter crashed into a school building and set it ablaze today, May 8, after a technical failure as it was preparing to land in the Naltar Valley at Gilgit, northern Pakistan.

There were eleven foreign nationals and six Pakistani crew members on board. Two of the unknown number of injured people were the ambassadors of the Netherlands (Marcel de Vink) and Poland (Andrzej Ananiczolish), who were taken to the Combined Military Hospital in Gilgit for treatment. Other passengers include the ambassadors of Indonesia, Lebanon, Malaysia, Romania and South Africa. The helicopter was one of three Mi-17s carrying diplomats to the launch of two projects in the mountainous Gilgit-Baltistan region. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was travelling in one of the other helicopters when the accident happened, following which he returned to Islamabad. AFD-Dave Allport

 

[fatman17]

@fatman17

Any infrared countermeasure system installed on our Mi 17s?

Later models do but older types I'm not so sure

 

[fatman17]

their crash rate is less than russian
2nd
they are easy to maintain

my grandpa was engineer in paa

he told me that russian helos engine failure ratio was a big problem

Only 4 or 5 fatal Mi 17 crashes in last decade. The helo is very durable.

 

[Shabi1]

Do Pakistani helos have self protection systems installed. MAWS, RWR, Chaaf, and Flare systems seem visibly absent. Our transport fleet needs to have some sort of protection against MANPADs to operate in a modern battlefield.

Maybe Bell-412s, Cobras and Z-9s might have them but not sure. Also PA needs to install IR signature suppressors.

IR suppressors on a US special operations Mi-17

 

[nomi007]

Only 4 or 5 fatal Mi 17 crashes in last decade. The helo is very durable.

2nd crash with in a week

 

[JPMM]

Only 4 or 5 fatal Mi 17 crashes in last decade. The helo is very durable.

Dont say that, You have the Portuguese EH101 operating 10 years with 0 accidents, this week we made a new SAR record 930km mission south of the Açores Islands, 12 Hours mission. And I am talking of operating on the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, belive me, I was there from 1994 to 1996 on Terceira Island on military service! You lose one engine, you have two more!

Da semana passada retivemos a passagem dos 10 anos da chegada a Portugal da plataforma Agusta-Westland EH-101 Merlin.
Com ela um enorme salto qualitativo na salvaguarda da vida no mar - na nossa imensa área de jurisdição e responsabilidade, equivalente a praticamente toda a área ocupada pela Europa. O EH exponenciou a tradição do seu antecessor, SA-330 Puma, absorvendo o seu legado mas projetando-o bem mais além.
Ao fim desta década é mais do que legítimo fazer um balanço muito positivo relativamente à introdução deste Helicóptero, muito provavelmente o melhor aparelho para esta panóplia de funções e que proporcionou a Portugal assegurar, com mais proficiência, as missões de SAR, CSAR e SIFICAP.
Ao longo destes anos já se contam por milheres as vidas salvas pelo EH-101, algumas delas no fino limite do tolerável no que toca a esforço e capacidade de Homens e máquina, mas sempre na senda do lema da Esquadra 751 - Pumas que o opera: "Para que outros vivam".
As aeronaves estão estacionadas em Portugal continental, na Base Aérea nº6, no Montijo e em destacamentos na Base Aérea nº4, nas Lajes - Açores e Aeródromo de Manobra nº3, no Porto Santo/Madeira.
Mas o Merlin também se tem notabilizado pela sua capacidade em ações CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) e nas missões SFICAP (Fiscalização e Controle de Atividade Pesqueira), contribuindo para a projeção de forças de forma rápida e eficaz em cenários de conflito e complexidade estrutural, e na fiscalização da atividade pesqueira, fulcral para a manutenção das reservas de pescado e no combate a atividades ilegais nesse âmbito, respetivamente.
E bom rigor, o EH-101 tornou-se num importante instrumento de afirmação das Forças Armadas Portuguesas e de Portugal, por conseguinte, no âmbito Europeu e até mundial, uma vez que a nossa capacidade para operar o EH-101 já tem sido referenciada como sendo extremamente eficaz e um exemplo a seguir pelas diversas nações que o operam.

Not a movie, real People, real operation, two days ago!

 

[nomi007]

whole nation proud on you

shaheed ki jo maut hai

woh quom ki hayat hai