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How would we counter Apaches in Battlefield?


During the ten years between 1962 to 1973, US Air Forces lost over 2,000 aircraft: the majority to Anti Aircraft Artillery.

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But Apaches Hell fire's range is 8km, these guns would become ineffective

do you really believe we will allow them to fire against us from 8km distance and will not be able to disturb and outmanoeuvre their fire distance, even if so, yes we will lose units through 8km distance, but we will reach them with our weapons because it's not a pink ponk or static battle, but a mobile warfare, we are mobile and masters in camouflaging!

"Fire and movement, or fire and manoeuvre, is the basic modern military low-level unit tactic used to manoeuvre on the battlefield in the presence of the enemy, especially when under fire. It involves heavy use of all available cover, and highly-coordinated exchanges of rapid movement by some elements of the squad or platoon while other elements cover this movement with suppression fire. It is used both to advance on enemy positions as part of an attack, or withdrawal from current positions under attack by the enemy. The moving and supporting (suppressing) elements may be teams or individuals, and may quickly and continuously exchange roles until the entire unit completes the manoeuvre objective. Some members will specialize more in different roles within fire and movement as fits their range, equipment, terrain, and ability to manoeuvre. This is usually applied to standard infantry tactics, but forms of this are also used with armoured fighting vehicles or when supported by artillery or air power."
 
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do you really believe we will allow them to fire against us from 8km distance and will not be able to disturb and outmanoeuvre their fire distance, even if so, yes we will lose units through 8km distance, but we will reach them with our weapons because it's not a pink ponk or static battle, but a mobile warfare, we are mobile and masters in camouflaging!

"Fire and movement, or fire and manoeuvre, is the basic modern military low-level unit tactic used to manoeuvre on the battlefield in the presence of the enemy, especially when under fire. It involves heavy use of all available cover, and highly-coordinated exchanges of rapid movement by some elements of the squad or platoon while other elements cover this movement with suppression fire. It is used both to advance on enemy positions as part of an attack, or withdrawal from current positions under attack by the enemy. The moving and supporting (suppressing) elements may be teams or individuals, and may quickly and continuously exchange roles until the entire unit completes the manoeuvre objective. Some members will specialize more in different roles within fire and movement as fits their range, equipment, terrain, and ability to manoeuvre. This is usually applied to standard infantry tactics, but forms of this are also used with armoured fighting vehicles or when supported by artillery or air power."

One aspect we ignore is camouflage capabilities, if Pak armor as reported is painted with special paints then certainly tracking and targeting range shall be much lower than max range of enemy radars and missiles. The mantra for PA is to increase camouflage/stealth features on armor along with induction of capable short to medium range mobile SAMs may be Russian ones.
 
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This video game psyche !

Can you please present a rough scenario of few IAF AH-64 attaching PA tanks ?

We can go further from there then.
Scenario is a plain in Punjab where no air force is present on both sides. India is on offensive with Apaches and other gunships on front taking on our Armoured divisions by missiles and our soldiers by both missiles and guns.
 
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Scenario is a plain in Punjab where no air force is present on both sides. India is on offensive with Apaches and other gunships on front taking on our Armoured divisions by missiles and our soldiers by both missiles and guns.
Punjab has hills, vegetation, trees which provide natural cover as well as obstruction. Such natural cover also helps in camouflaging equipment easily than desert from naked eye and thermal sensors. Easy to ambush Gunships with AAA and SAM.
 
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Punjab has hills, vegetation, trees which provide natural cover as well as obstruction. Such natural cover also helps in camouflaging equipment easily than desert from naked eye and thermal sensors. Easy to ambush Gunships with AAA and SAM.
And if this scenario occurs in a desert?
 
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And if this scenario occurs in a desert?
Preparation of camo will take more time. Forces will be dispersed over a large terrain. Even if 4-6 MBT's are taken out by IAF AH-64, the Gunships will retreat when one or two AH-64 are shot down in return fire of mobile AD or ambush.
 
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