Kiss_of_the_Dragon
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That's India's concern. But Pakistanis' concern should be whether they'll ever get Gwadar back from the Chinese. Gwadar's population is only 50,000. When the port is going it could add another 50,000 - and I know Chinese hiring practices. Once Gwadar's population of Chinese (even in only a subsection of the city) is greater than that of Pakistanis what will happen?The concern is only that the port doesn't become a military base.
I think you'll find Pakistanis won't have a say in this matter, only Chinese will. The Chinese may claim they get ahead of others by working harder but my observation and experience - as well as a good chunk of history - shows that when they have a choice they will operate by racial preference. That's why the Singaporeans, to keep civil peace, have laws that attempt to enforce Malay employment by Chinese employers. Something Pakistan might want to consider rather than handing the Chinese near-sovereign rights to Gwadar and its connecting rail link....I'm sure US investment is just as welcome as Chinese investment
Didn't take too long to get your gorvernment official statement of concern
Antony: China Gwadar work is a worry | The Asian Age
I think you'll find Pakistanis won't have a say in this matter, only Chinese will. The Chinese may claim they get ahead of others by working harder but my observation and experience - as well as a good chunk of history - shows that when they have a choice they will operate by racial preference. That's why the Singaporeans, to keep civil peace, have laws that attempt to enforce Malay employment by Chinese employers. Something Pakistan might want to consider rather than handing the Chinese near-sovereign rights to Gwadar and its connecting rail link.
No, that's not my concern at all, and I fail to see how you think it, save perhaps because Karachi was built up by the Brits and Pakistanis may mistakenly see the U.S. as Britain but with deeper pockets.I think right now, the fact that US does not have a say in it, is of greater concern -- Invest, bring $$ -
How would you know? Details of the agreement are not public. I suggest you monitor developments closely - not gov't pronouncements, but what's happening at Gwadar and along the connections to it.Relax, no sovereign rights are being transferred to anybody
That's India's concern. But Pakistanis' concern should be whether they'll ever get Gwadar back from the Chinese. Gwadar's population is only 50,000. When the port is going it could add another 50,000 - and I know Chinese hiring practices. Once Gwadar's population of Chinese (even in only a subsection of the city) is greater than that of Pakistanis what will happen?
Remember, China claims sovereignty over all Chinese, everywhere - at least, that's how Chinese students here justify extending Chinese control to all sorts of places. Singapore maintains its independence from China and Malaysia with a strong military, alliances, and the water barrier. Gwadar doesn't have those advantages; with a high-speed link substantial PLA forces can travel from Yunnan to Gwadar in less than a week, much less if pre-positioned first. Do you think China will tolerate Gwadar turning into another Karachi?
What would you say about this ...The plans of your jewish friends must be known to you as well if we dont allow chinese foot print in gwadar you will succeed very easily so lets make it a bit hard and make you guys earn what ever you will get when the great game reaches some conclusion.No, that's not my concern at all, and I fail to see how you think it, save perhaps because Karachi was built up by the Brits and Pakistanis may mistakenly see the U.S. as Britain but with deeper pockets.
How would you know? Details of the agreement are not public. I suggest you monitor developments closely - not gov't pronouncements, but what's happening at Gwadar and along the connections to it.
Note that "just like with the drones" China has the right under UNSCR 1373 to intervene militarily if Pakistan fails to eliminate terrorist activity and establish its control.Then lets monitor the developments together and raise hell if Pakistani sovereignty is threatened (just like with the Drones)
I disagree. I don't speak for the USG but I think China communication w/Indian Ocean through Pakistan can be a good thing; it reduces strategic pressure in the Singapore area. Nonetheless I don't think Gwadar should serve as means to wedge open Pakistan to Chinese colonization.I don't blame for your obsession about Gwadar , it's been since day one of the Gwadar port construction that U.S is been obsessed of any Chinese connection or access to Indian Ocean via Pakistan, they have done everything to prevent this to be happened -
This rant is too far in outer space for me to grasp.What would you say about this ...The plans of your jewish friends must be known to you as well if we dont allow chinese foot print in gwadar you will succeed very easily -
Note that "just like with the drones" China has the right under UNSCR 1373 to intervene militarily if Pakistan fails to eliminate terrorist activity and establish its control.
Note that "just like with the drones" China has the right under UNSCR 1373 to intervene militarily if Pakistan fails to eliminate terrorist activity and establish its control.