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Pakistan announces 5th-gen fighter and medium-altitude long-endurance UAV programs

What you are talking about is something like ECM/EW suites.

As for radar..

Sorry to tell you, but PAF is also looking at producing an AESA radar (ground surveillance ones are already there) itself:
In his speech celebrating Pakistan Aeronautical Complex’s (PAC) achievement of overhauling its 1,000th aircraft, the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) Chief of Air Staff (CAS) Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Sohail Aman stated that PAC’s future lies in the development of active electronically-scanned array (AESA) radars.

Designed to overcome the electronic warfare (EW) and electronic countermeasures (ECM) weaknesses of legacy pulse-Doppler radars, AESA radars have effectively become the standard for modern air, land and naval applications. Functionally, AESA radars utilize many individual transmit/receive – or transceiver – modules (TRM), each emitting its own radio signal as though (in simple terms) it is a mini-radar.

Thus, an AESA radar system is transmits in different signals, which makes it difficult for EW/ECM systems, such as digital radio frequency memory (DRFM)-based jammers. DRFM jammers operate by singling out an opposing radar’s radio waves, and then re-transmitting in the same signal. In turn, the radar would be at risk of jamming. However, because AESA radars transmit in many different signals, and change those signals with each pulse, jamming is more difficult.

The PAF is intending to configure the forthcoming JF-17 Block-III with an AESA radar, which it is expected to select in May (Aviation Week). The leading candidates are the Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology (NRIET) KLJ-7A and Leonardo Vixen 1000E. It is unclear if transfer-of-technology for licensed local production is on the table for either option, but PAC’s Avionics Production Factory does list the KLJ-7 and Grifo-7 among the systems it produces, though the extent is not known.

While one can expect licensed manufacturing of AESA radar components for the JF-17, the PAF could also direct PAC towards the more ambitious – and commensurately rewarding – route of becoming Pakistan’s main radar vendor. In other words, turnkey domestic AESA radar manufacturing, which would provide the armed forces with substantially greater freedom (to configure their weapon systems) and, over the long-term, provide cost-savings by reducing imports (and increasing work for the local industry).

In fact, one of the underlying pieces of an AESA radar – i.e. the active phased-array TRM – can be applied to EW/ECM and other sensor solutions, such as synthetic aperture radars (SAR) for ground-mapping. PAC mastering this technology would enable to undertake a significant amount of development work, not just for the PAF, but the Pakistan Army and Pakistan Navy as well. In terms of applications, PAC could produce modern EW/ECM suites, SAR and AESA radars, and solutions for onboard fighter aircraft, special mission aircraft, drones, naval warships, and land-based integrated air defence systems.

The potential benefits are significant, but the methods available to Pakistan for undertaking the effort of possessing its own AESA radar technology are another matter. The armed forces will need to invest in the country’s organic research and development (R&D) base to build the requisite technical competency, especially in terms of human resources and industry infrastructure. Even in the best-case scenario of collaborating with a technology partner in China and/or Turkey, Pakistan will need to have to contribute to the overall effort, lest it be just a recipient. In such cases, it may be difficult to open collaborative routes. The Transfer-of-technology route would also be capital-heavy, and it too would require building domestic skills and infrastructure (to absorb the technology). Organic R&D investment is essential. Kamra Aviation City, which is due to start post-graduate programs in April 2017, would be a means to execute on this necessity (for AESA radars as well as the next-generation fighter program).

To his credit, ACM Sohail Aman has maintained a consistent stand in that he has been openly assertive of indigenization, stating that supply-side independence is the core objective of the PAF’s current roadmap – Vision 2030. Given the applicability of AESA radar technology for land and sea applications, one would hope that support for this initiative would also come from the Pakistan Army and Pakistan Navy. With the country’s fiscal limitations, tri-services collaboration would certainly help, especially for forming the basic R&D foundations to enable serious development.

The KLJ-7 uses a mechanically-steered planar array antenna and bears similarities with the various Russian radars imported in the 1990s. Russian radar design houses Phazotron and NIIP had worked closely in the past with the Chinese radar design bureaus and provided technical assistance as well as operational models of Russian-made radar sets that were used as benchmarks in the process of these Chinese firms developing their own design. Up to 20 units of the Phazotron Zhemchoug ('Pearl) radar were imported in the mid-1990s for evaluation along with 2 units of Phazotron (NIIR) RP-35.
 
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Without Chinese help looks impossible!
When has Pak lacked "help" from her bosom friends???? Add Turkey to that list. As for Pak, they know how to take that little "help" to much higher next levels for they have a creative and inquisitive mind!!!! The world belongs to the unsatisfied folks as per a Turkish proverb!!! And, Pak lots are darn unsatisfied and hungry!!!!

"Stay hungry", Steve Jobs (Founder of Apple)

"A journey of a thousand miles start with a single step", a Chinese proverb
 
I think the area where we need to do R&D is in radar technology, avionics and rocket motors ...

All three forces can get benefit from working on these tech and our combined requirement is massive ...

In current evolved battlefield avionics are the key and within avionics the most important part is the hours required to design and program coding ... We need to train our engineers and should take the benefit of low wage rates ... this will have enormous advantage in longer term ...

Good thing is we are moving in the right direction

We are working on radars.


Ground surveillance radars (AESA) have been produced and even sold to Jordan.

PAF itself is working or atleast intends to produce AESA.

Rocket motors... I doubt we'd be launching MIRVs and CMs without building motors..

The problem is too much sensitivity...

Even MBRLs and howitzers aren't revelieved officially ... and come to notice after somebody clicks a pic..

Meanwhile the official websites are like relics of the past.. managed by some middle aged clerk who doesn't give a crap.. lol

When has Pak lacked "help" from her bosom friends???? Add Turkey to that list. As for Pak, they know how to take that little "help" to much higher next levels for they have a creative and inquisitive mind!!!! The world belongs to the unsatisfied folks as per a Turkish proverb!!! And, Pak lots are darn unsatisfied and hungry!!!!

"Stay hungry", Steve Jobs (Founder of Apple)

"A journey of a thousand miles start with a single step", a Chinese proverb
Who knows brother.. we might partner for the TFX... the defence partnership grows day by day.

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There will be two 5th generation fighters in PAF. JV J-31 in near term and manufacturing an indigenous NGF in long term.
 
PAF is looking at FGF and beyond..meaning 6th Generation with AI..something like the French nEUROn..


Dassault’s experimental Unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV), nEUROn, might be the role model fot the sixth generation of fighter jets. The French company is now working closely with France and Germany to develop the new jet fighter design, to replace or upgrade Rafale jets and Tornado IDS.

https://www.aerotime.aero/en/did-you-know/14402-neuron-the-future-of-sixth-generation-jets

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PAF undoubtedly started making preliminary studies on 5th generation A/C back in 2002-2003. Modern aircraft have a lead time of 15-20 years. If PAF is doing anything wrt 6th Generation, its at best paper studies, how will the AF look in 2040-2050.
 
development of new UAVs is a very good step. however every technology has its technical advantages as well as its loops and holes for instance in 2011 Iran brought down a RQ-170 US stealth drone with the help of its cyber warfare unit and later iran reverse engineered it. that is how all the research work of lockhead martin ended up in the hands of iranians. but still for surveillance and intelligence purpose they are an awesome tool
 
These machines on the left side of Backdrop, Are the just Google searched pics or they are some sort of concept models ??? Just curious to know

your guess is as good as mine
 
Budget is too low.it is good that Pakistan is progressing well and realizes the need of advance weapons.we must prepare ourselves for the worst kind of scenario.
 
your guess is as good as mine

one in the middle looks very much a like Burraq , just a little fancy Burraq .. the design wont very much what i can say, but as desert Fighter is saying its about Payload and Endurance of the drones in future, for us Drones and Attack helicopters are important to keep this internal fight under-control
 

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