Pakistan alleges role of US behind No Confidence Vote against PTI government

[TNT]

The real question is what can the people do? We as a nation have a weak memory. We forgot the drone strikes, we forgot how CIA agents roamed in Pakistan and killed ppl, even arrogantly killed ppl in road accidents with zero consequences. We saw how they brutally killed our soldiers in salala and yet our govt and establishment spread their legs to them. We were infact told the US is our ally and that small mistakes happen lolz. What can the people do???
An honorable nation at this point would rise up and bring a revolution, hang all those who sold our honor. But reality is that most of the nation is also corrupt and divided into sects and parties and what not.
We as a nation need to unite on one thing and that should be the honor of the country. We should not let the country be treated like a slave because few ppl have their offspring in US and have their businesses and money in US. We as a nation should decide if sustenance is given by Allah or by US?? At times i think 1947 was a mirage and we actually are still slaves. So does our nation have the balls to rise up and break the chains of slavery???????

 

[Maula Jatt]

Don't worry dear, most of these posters are like a Sheep, one jumps into the water and they all blindly follow.
This is the same mentality that just to vent out their frustration against XYZ, they would torch any Petrol Stations, burn down Banks, pelt stones on Metro Buses, block Motorways etc.....without having the brains to think that these actions will only make life miserable for the common man, no MP or MNA or any other VIP will suffer from it.
When I logged on PDF today, it seemed that IK has already been ousted, Bajwa was ready to be lynched and China and Russia had closed their Embassies in Pakistan. Duha.
No wonder some French journalist once wrote that Pakistanis are the most frivolous people on earth.

Dil ki BAAT kehdi bhai...

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

BTW listen the Bajwa speech which he deliver in Islamabad Security Dialogue, he is deliberately poking China and Russia

In regards to China he remarked "Indo-China Border dispute is of Great Concern to us", I mean why it should be a concern to us ??? China has taken some burden of Indian forces Off from our back, and now engaging Indian forces this thing favor us but NO he want relief for India.


He is not only outlining a separate Diplomatic Policy but signaling to USA for some intent & purpose about which we can only make guess

Correct!

In absolute terms he is in fact equating Ukraine and India... while simultaneously calling China and Russia as aggressors... Russia though in a more profound and overt manner and China while mincing his words but not in their intent.
If only some lower level official had read this policy statement to perhaps gauge it's impact would have at least allowed leverage to other state apparatus to minimize the damage.

However it is done and if anything Pakistan must preemptively now try to dampen its fallout... will they?

 

[Darth Vader]

At this stage what can imran do.
1 Kick bajwa out and bring a new Chief by seniority.
2 Ask Alvi to start emergency that will bring his new chief in play.
3 kick of all the diplomats who were involved in this scandal.
4 Start articles 6 and brand these traitors and go to supreme court start a case in mean time.
5 Force elections commission to keep everyone who has active treason case out of running by actively highlighting on media how ECP is treating these scums, that should limit the interface if they are in lime light.
6 Early election this is the best time for Imran to go for elections since everything is hot and imran khan can get majority just because of the wave and whats going on, specially force ECP to priorities votes from overseas Pakistans

 

[JX-1]

Are you expecting a breakthrough , personally I think something is going to happen thay no one is expecting, am I going down the right road with this?

Right before a no confidence vote, everyone gets a not-so-friendly phone call, and not-so-friendly things happen to those who don't comply with the caller(s). So let's see what mode the callers are in this time.

 

[WotTen]

To convince myself, I can only say that the statement given by Bajwa is a planned move in coordination with IK, So that IK gets to keep his words while another Top official (COAS) plays the ‘Cool US down’ card (which isn’t enough and shouldn’t be).

Pakistan is not very good at playing the 'liberal democracy' game.

Look at how India plays the game, the US, the West. The trick is for the government to take a stand based on national priorities, then use the 'free media' to float trial balloons and say the 'liberal' viewpoint without attacking the government per se.

This way you can send out both messages to respective audiences, all the while bragging about a 'free and independent media'.

 

[StormBreaker]

First, lets see what happens tomorrow.....

I hope Military gets to keep their fans

 

[PakSarZameen47]

I can only wish you are right but when we judge the ‘Military’, We judge on the basis of the mere fact that Military men aren’t angels created from the Noor of God, Rather are just sons of the very same corrupt blood of Pakistan, The corrupt blood that is ‘badnaam’ in whole globe due to ‘greed’, ‘lust’, ‘fraud’ and no ‘self respect’.

Military hasn’t been pure in the history and we don’t expect them to be especially after the current fiasco.

To convince myself, I can only say that the statement given by Bajwa is a planned move in coordination with IK, So that IK gets to keep his words while another Top official (COAS) plays the ‘Cool US down’ card (which isn’t enough and shouldn’t be).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1510208889005953027

 

[Windjammer]

Dil ki BAAT kehdi bhai...

Kiya ho sakta hey dear, lagta hey, Jew TV waloun ney PDF kay 90% shares khareed liye hain.

 

[PanzerKiel]

I hope Military gets to keep their fans

Military will keep on living without its fans. Its the fans' choice what they like to think and believe. Haste makes waste afterall.

 

[EvoluXon]

At this stage what can imran do.
1 Kick bajwa out and bring a new Chief by seniority.
2 Ask Alvi to start emergency that will bring his new chief in play.
3 kick of all the diplomats who were involved in this scandal.
4 Start articles 6 and brand these traitors and go to supreme court start a case in mean time.
5 Force elections commission to keep everyone who has active treason case out of running by actively highlighting on media how ECP is treating these scums, that should limit the interface if they are in lime light.
6 Early election this is the best time for Imran to go for elections since everything is hot and imran khan can get majority just because of the wave and whats going on, specially force ECP to priorities votes from overseas Pakistans

Imran khan may have persona and popularity in public but not revolutionary leader or killer instinct to go for extreme measure like erdogan and putin.. if you ask me its pacisift policy of Imran which is going to be oust him from govt..

On further note imran khan thinks he can come back by winning next election and that is too by 2/3 majority . Its only his wishful thinking ... Imran has not learnt anything from his current tenure i think .. Establishment will never let it happen...

 

[IceCold]

The amount of abuse and name-calling which is being hurled at the PA is just beyond me

This is what worries me, Army as an institution cannot be held hostage by anyone including the COAS. Anti army sentiments have never been so high and this is what is a cause of concern. You see if the army loses the support of its own people, it won't be able to do its job which it is meant for and forgive me for saying this but Bajwa isn't helping to dispel this impression. In fact, he is doing contrary to this. His statements in favor of the US when the army itself has accepted that the sitting government and sitting PM were indeed threatened, puts the entire institution at odds with its own government as well as its own people. I hope you understand.

 

[PanzerKiel]

You see if the army loses the support of its own people, it won't be able to do its job which it is meant for and forgive me for saying this

This is what the anti government media and enemies are aiming at. And they are going pretty good.

Bajwa isn't helping to dispel this impression. In fact, he is doing contrary to this. His statements in favor of the US when the army itself has accepted that the sitting government and sitting PM were indeed threatened,

A necessary sacrifice maybe. You take couple of punches in order to punch where you want to.

puts the entire institution at odds with its own government as well as its own people.

The entire institution is almost a million strong. The whole institution cannot be at odds against the government or people. If that was the case, 111 would have move long ago.

I hope you understand.

I also hope dear that you understand.

 

[LeGenD]

Dont forget the ISI chief , with the appointment of new chief everything started to fall down for Ik!


lanat hai f16 per, that jet represents the subjugation and slavery of this nation!

People have problems when a military official is NOT given extension.
People have problems when a military official is given extension.

Military is a STATE-based institution. Remember this.

F-16 made it possible for PAF to rout IAF on 27-02-19. These jet fighters have delivered results in combat situations in spite of hue and cry about alleged kill switches in them.

But lanat hai F-16 per, right?

 

[Enigma SIG]

Right before a no confidence vote, everyone gets a not-so-friendly phone call, and not-so-friendly things happen to those who don't comply with the caller(s). So let's see what mode the callers are in this time.

Friendly ones get DHA plots?

A necessary sacrifice maybe. You take couple of punches in order to punch where you want to.

Hence my earlier comment that the Army needs to take one for the team to which @blain2 responded in a negative.