Pakistan Air Force will have to operate from Afghanistan to escape S-400: Senior Indian MoD official

[$@rJen]

The next war we will fight with India will be fought in Indian streets with India's 200 million Muslims fighting for liberty with "diplomatic and moral support" from their brothers in Pakistan.

lol..... keep dreaming and try with those people to get Kashmir

 

[Perpendicular]

The next war we will fight with India will be fought in Indian streets with India's 200 million Muslims fighting for liberty with "diplomatic and moral support" from their brothers in Pakistan.

, Hope is a good thing but not the best of things.
After seeing biggest refugee crises unfold in recent history, I believe muslims best hopes are with non muslims.

 

[mkb95]

The next war we will fight with India will be fought in Indian streets with India's 200 million Muslims fighting for liberty with "diplomatic and moral support" from their brothers in Pakistan.

i bet you people were hoping for that since independence.lol,most of the terrorist caught in india came from pakistan.
you couldnt find support from 200mill people and have to send your own people to die for a war that exist only in the minds of pakistanies.

 

[Awesome Indian]

The next war we will fight with India will be fought in Indian streets with India's 200 million Muslims fighting for liberty with "diplomatic and moral support" from their brothers in Pakistan.

I bet Indian Muslims are more patriotic than Pakistani Muslims

 

[Manidabest]

well if indian hindu hate Pakistanis then indian muslims hate Pakistanis double than indian hindus ....

 

[T-72M1]

no need for hindu-muslim bs here, lets keep it at S-400 vs PAF

 

[Manidabest]

well one thing everyone must understand ... territories are not permanent they keep changing with time and with different names

 

[Stephen Cohen]

The next war we will fight with India will be fought in Indian streets with India's 200 million Muslims fighting for liberty with "diplomatic and moral support" from their brothers in Pakistan.

I am glad you brought up this topic

Let me explain why this will not work

In India we have a system that WHEN WAR is declared ; the CONSTITUTION is
immediately suspended

Indian Muslim citizens get all their rights from the Constitution

SO if ANY citizen tries to Harm the country during a war ; he will be IMMEDIATELY
SHOT dead

And we also have a system of the Government calling out the citizens for HELP
in times of War

What this means is that the Government will give us weapons to shoot all
trouble makers

If India has 200 Million Muslims ; then it ALSO has 1. 1 BILLION Hindus

Secondly why do you Think Organisations like RSS ; Shiv Sena ; VHP ; Bajrang Dal
are Allowed to operate in India

For precisely such a day and scenario

 

[volatile]

S400 sales are linked with T50 PAK FA version .It will be interested to know how many T-50 IAF will opt for and remmeber there is always a time line for such orders. Funny thing is these days Technology is changing very quickly first you employ BVR then comes Intelligent CHaff/Flares and other systems ,Dont you think S400 is threat to US interest /Turkey/ In South China Nations ,I am very much confident putting UAV is not a solution there was a time when IAF deploys AWACS first in early 2000 we were able to survive still im sure there are proven technologies which will defeat this .Primary question remains

1. When and where S400 will be employed
2. What version/range it will employ

These are few questions and Im sure there will be many more its not always the superior weapon wins its always the intelligent super survival weapon that wins .Let me give you a hint just for the sake of conversation we already have quite a lot stand off weapon capability against Sea /Land targets with terrain hugging missiles .Against the arguments that Aerial tankers and AWACs are first one to be taken out by either site ,i beg to differ these tankers and AWACS will be secure first and have good survivability so they will se quite safe but this i can tell you first thing which will be taken out will be Ground base Radars and SAMs of both sides .Indian`s can chest thrump at the moment but fact to the matter is S400 like any other system are vulnerable and can be taken out

Revealed: U.S. Navy's Plan to Defeat Russia's Deadly S-400 | The National Interest Blog

SO this is one example and funny thing is in military world word of mouth spreads like any thing as what you called Brothers in Arm .So Pakistan planners need to invest in sub systems which can take care of these Giant killers

 

[Stephen Cohen]

So an unnamed senior official!!

Knowing Indian media pretty well, I could say with certainity that they cooked up this remark.

While it is true that S-400 at border would be able to shoot down any aircraft in Pakistan air space theoretically, in practice doing so has certain problems.

1. S-400 would not be stationed next to border ,least it be targeted by artillery/MRLS fire. It would be stationed a good fifty to hundred kilometer or so inside the border which means that its range would be reduced by that much.

2. S-400's (40N6E) longest range missile is bulky and unsuitable for targeting nimble fighter jets. It was designed to take down AWACS and EW planes of USA, and at its extreme distance, it would only be able to intercept PAF's air-refuelrs and AWACS.

3. The 400 Km range of 40N6E is in head chase mode. In normal scenario, this range would be less than half of this.

We will use the S 400 for targetting the AWACS

Once they are Gone the S 400's job is over ; Then SU 30 and Rafale will be All over
their airspace

That can happen on Day one

After that S 400 can move back

A S 400 which is 150 KM inside the Indian Border can still take out
a PAF AWACS

S400 sales are linked with T50 PAK FA version .It will be interested to know how many T-50 IAF will opt for

The PAK FA is a 30 Billion Deal
Some 150 planes

And that excludes the 4 BILLION development cost

S 400 will be between Minimum 6 ; to maximum 10 Billion dollar deal

 

[litman]

the reason why the title is so laughable is the typical indian mentality. "once we get this the enemy will have to operate from moon" . we are hearing such statements since 2003 " once we get 126MMRCA the pakistan and china will die with fear" it's 2016 and where are those 126 MMRCA?? the fighter deal of the century?? according to most indians SU 30 mki was the king of fighters but then suddenly few years ago rafale became the new king of fighters.very soon that place will be taken up by the tejas.hilarious

 

[Srinivas]

The next war we will fight with India will be fought in Indian streets with India's 200 million Muslims fighting for liberty with "diplomatic and moral support" from their brothers in Pakistan.

This post resembles your signature .... just changed the context it seems.

 

[litman]

I am glad you brought up this topic

Let me explain why this will not work

In India we have a system that WHEN WAR is declared ; the CONSTITUTION is
immediately suspended

Indian Muslim citizens get all their rights from the Constitution

SO if ANY citizen tries to Harm the country during a war ; he will be IMMEDIATELY
SHOT dead

And we also have a system of the Government calling out the citizens for HELP
in times of War

What this means is that the Government will give us weapons to shoot all
trouble makers

If India has 200 Million Muslims ; then it ALSO has 1. 1 BILLION Hindus

Secondly why do you Think Organisations like RSS ; Shiv Sena ; VHP ; Bajrang Dal
are Allowed to operate in India

For precisely such a day and scenario

chalo iss bahanay india kay tactics to samhaj aa gay. warna hamain to pata he nahi tha k india iss had takk gir sakta hay

 

[Shabi1]

These type of SAMs are hard to hide and will be easily detectable from a distance when active. Long range SAMs both side of the border will likely be taken out by standoff missile systems from both sides. Also PAFs SSG branch's primary function is identification and neutralization of enemy air defence systems.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

chalo iss bahanay india kay tactics to samhaj aa gay. warna hamain to pata he nahi tha k india iss had takk gir sakta hay

@Horus

Please READ this

Govt revises Union War Book to meet current situation - Times of India

Such SCENARIOS as suggested by YOU have been considered and already
there are mechanisms in place to deal with them
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@litman
There is No need to bring ISIS into it

Secondly ALL our citizens Know this fact that their Rights come from the Constitution

And when War begins ; EMERGENCY is declared and the Constitution is suspended

So any trouble maker will be shot dead

These are WELL documented procedures ; nothing new about it