Pakistan Air Force Transport

[Arsalan]

Time to have bigger ambitions

Who created these rules , that Pakistan Army cannot have new transport planes
Pakistan airforce cannot have more then 500 planes
Pakistan navy cannot have 30 frigates

Our NEEDS created these RULES sir. Not to mentioned our financial position (which will be secondary in my opinion since we are talking numbers here and not quality)

 

[fatman17]

Just a nice picture

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Cool VIP plane.

 

[fatman17]

Passenger drone

 

[Arsalan]

Passenger drone

Well this may be a CGI, a concept illustrator but there surely is some work being done on silimar lines in reality as well.

This is reportedly China's first unmanned cargo drone.

There are SO many other concept images circulating around as well.

 

[fatman17]

C130 nose art

 

[fatman17]

Re: Miscellaneous Pakistani Military Aircraft

PostTue Jun 14, 2016 4:08 pm

Fuselage of that Cessna 208B Grand Caravan has logo of Balochistan Police (balochistanpolice.gov.pk). Its serial number i.e. 1231 is derived from its construction number 208B-1231.

This aircraft was built in 2006 and registered in USA as N11116 for Cessna Aircraft Company. On February 28, 2007, registration N11116 was cancelled and the aircraft transferred to Pakistan.

 

[fatman17]

Two Y-20 Transport Aircraft

Chinese PLAAF Takes Delivery of First Two Y-20 Transport Aircraft

Posted on 16 June, 2016

Xian Y-20 prototype 783 being displayed at the Zhuhai Air Show on November 16, 2014. The first two Y-20s were handed over to the PLAAF yesterday and delivered today to the 4th Air (Transport) Division at Chengdu-Qionglai.

CHINA’S PEOPLE’S Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) has taken delivery of the first operational Xian Y-20 strategic transport aircraft. Two of the type were handed over at the Xian factory yesterday, June 15. Both were then flown out today to Chengdu-Qionglai Air Base, near Sangyuan, to enter service with the 4th Air (Transport) Division. The first aircraft, 11051 ’01’, landed at Qionglai around 1200hrs local time, followed by the second shortly after 1700hrs.

The deliveries follow over three years of testing since the maiden flight of the first prototype, which took place on January 26, 2013. A total of five prototypes have been involved in flight testing, the fifth and most recent, ‘789’ having made its first flight on February 6 this year. It followed soon after the fourth prototype, ‘788’, which was first seen on January 23. The other three prototypes are 781, 783 and 785.

In 2014, the PLA National Defence University’s Centre for Economic Research issued a report indicating that the Chinese military was likely to require up to 400 Y-20s. More recently, during a technology innovation exhibition in Beijing, held between June 1-7, Zhu Qian, head of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) Large Aircraft Development Office, said that more than 1,000 Y-20s will be needed. He did not elaborate further and this estimate may include requirements for commercial cargo operators as well. AFD-Dave Allport

 

[Arsalan]

Two Y-20 Transport Aircraft

Chinese PLAAF Takes Delivery of First Two Y-20 Transport Aircraft

Posted on 16 June, 2016

Xian Y-20 prototype 783 being displayed at the Zhuhai Air Show on November 16, 2014. The first two Y-20s were handed over to the PLAAF yesterday and delivered today to the 4th Air (Transport) Division at Chengdu-Qionglai.

CHINA’S PEOPLE’S Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) has taken delivery of the first operational Xian Y-20 strategic transport aircraft. Two of the type were handed over at the Xian factory yesterday, June 15. Both were then flown out today to Chengdu-Qionglai Air Base, near Sangyuan, to enter service with the 4th Air (Transport) Division. The first aircraft, 11051 ’01’, landed at Qionglai around 1200hrs local time, followed by the second shortly after 1700hrs.

The deliveries follow over three years of testing since the maiden flight of the first prototype, which took place on January 26, 2013. A total of five prototypes have been involved in flight testing, the fifth and most recent, ‘789’ having made its first flight on February 6 this year. It followed soon after the fourth prototype, ‘788’, which was first seen on January 23. The other three prototypes are 781, 783 and 785.

In 2014, the PLA National Defence University’s Centre for Economic Research issued a report indicating that the Chinese military was likely to require up to 400 Y-20s. More recently, during a technology innovation exhibition in Beijing, held between June 1-7, Zhu Qian, head of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) Large Aircraft Development Office, said that more than 1,000 Y-20s will be needed. He did not elaborate further and this estimate may include requirements for commercial cargo operators as well. AFD-Dave Allport

Impressive plane.
Do not means much for us (as there wont be much need for similar platforms) however but still this truly is a milestone achieved as far as Chinese aviation adventures are concerned.

 

[Quwa]

Impressive plane.
Do not means much for us (as there wont be much need for similar platforms) however but still this truly is a milestone achieved as far as Chinese aviation adventures are concerned.

If they develop an MRTT version, I think the PAF might consider it to replace the IL-78s.

 

[Beast]

Impressive plane.
Do not means much for us (as there wont be much need for similar platforms) however but still this truly is a milestone achieved as far as Chinese aviation adventures are concerned.

Why is it not significant for PAF? PAF needs to be decisive and put an firm order for few of it instead of being indecisive. I am sure China is able to afford 2-3 production plane available for PAF if money is paid upfront.

 

[fatman17]

Once a export version is available, l think PAF would like a few strategic airlift aircraft. also depends on its range.

 

[Arsalan]

Why is it not significant for PAF? PAF needs to be decisive and put an firm order for few of it instead of being indecisive. I am sure China is able to afford 2-3 production plane available for PAF if money is paid upfront.

I don't think we need these heavy transport planes. C-130 suite and serve us the best and if anything, we would be looking for a comparable aircraft to supplement the C-130 fleet. The Y-20 is something we wont be needing unless we start shopping to feel good.

 

[Beast]

I don't think we need these heavy transport planes. C-130 suite and serve us the best and if anything, we would be looking for a comparable aircraft to supplement the C-130 fleet. The Y-20 is something we wont be needing unless we start shopping to feel good.

It not about boasting ego, Y-20 is essential. It can carry oversize items and MBT while landed on ill prepared land strip over long distance. The best thing is , it is fully digitize with glass display cockpit while not overexpensive like C-17 or A400M. PAF just need 4-6 of these will greatly increase its combat capabilities. C-130 cargo bay size is very limited. It can fit into light armour Car but not even IFV can goes into it.

 

[Arsalan]

If they develop an MRTT version, I think the PAF might consider it to replace the IL-78s.

Sir don't you think getting a few more Il-78 will be better for us as well? What will be the requirement of aerial refuelers keeping in mind our geography, air force doctrine and the number of planes? I think 7 - 10 will be enough on max end and we can do just fine with 4-6 as well. Keeping that in views, i feel that getting more IL-78 will be better rather then operating two kinds, specially when we really do not have a huge need for big air lifters. What do you suggest/think? AND if you suggest that Y-20 will be better option what kind of numbers will you propose? (we are just discussing this matter so it is purely speculation, i hope people wont start quoting this as confirmation of PAF getting Y-20)

It not about boasting ego, Y-20 is essential. It can carry oversize items and MBT while landed on ill prepared land strip over long distance. The best thing is , it is fully digitize with glass display cockpit while not over expensive like C-17 or A400M. PAF just need 4-6 of these will greatly increase its combat capabilities. C-130 cargo bay size is very limited. It can fit into light armour Car but not even IFV can goes into it.

Yes that is what i meant to say dear, that DO we need to air lift MBT? As far as i can tell by the studying PA doctrine and polices and looking and the geography of my country and the distances of different possible fronts from one another and from the bases, i feel that we may not need 5 Y20 sir transporting 5 MBT to a different theater! C-130 meets and fulfill the basic transport needs and we only have basic transport needs.

Simply speaking, where do you think we will like our 5 MBT tanks delivered by Y-20? to which sector? I cant think of any.