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Right now PAF is desperate for C-130s.And that replacement will be other than c130 new variant
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Right now PAF is desperate for C-130s.And that replacement will be other than c130 new variant
The US seriously needs to reconsider what it can or cannot sell to Pakistan. If India can purchase weapons from Russia, which is a Chinese ally, then I don't see any problems in selling Pakistan brand new (or even used) C-130s.
The US seriously needs to reconsider what it can or cannot sell to Pakistan. If India can purchase weapons from Russia, which is a Chinese ally, then I don't see any problems in selling Pakistan brand new (or even used) C-130s.
The C-130s are good until 2025-2030. If the PAF kicks off a project to replace the C-130s, it would probably start around 2030.When we repkace our c 130 hercukes 40 yrs old
What as u said they will retire by 2030 and start buying in 2030 do u understand 2 to three yrs needed to get then untill that soace of time with notransport aircraftsThe C-130s are good until 2025-2030. If the PAF kicks off a project to replace the C-130s, it would probably start around 2030.
The PAF could end up using the C-130s a few years more past 2030, even if the OEM says the C-130s won't go past 2025-2030. The PAF might try a service life extension project (SLEP) that could add a few hundred hours to some airframes.What as u said they will retire by 2030 and start buying in 2030 do u understand 2 to three yrs needed to get then untill that soace of time with notransport aircrafts
Way too Big, and not PAF type.Why not the obvious Y-9?
They will arrive here in mid-2023, then we will take it to the limits. They will land on the Madeira/Azores Islands with that Shity weather, they will land in the dusty CAR with no land support etc.The PAF could end up using the C-130s a few years more past 2030, even if the OEM says the C-130s won't go past 2025-2030. The PAF might try a service life extension project (SLEP) that could add a few hundred hours to some airframes.
Ultimately, the issue here is limited funding (the majority of which is going to fighter-related procurement). The PAF probably won't settle its main fighter needs until 2025-2027. So, any talk of a new transport would likely start around that time and start materializing in the 2030s. I expect the PAF will seek either new C-130J-30s or Embraer C-390s. The outlay for those is around $200-250 m per aircraft (including spare parts, logistics, training, etc).
I personally think the C-390 could be a good fit. It has a heavier payload capacity than the C-130J. Embraer designed the C-390 as a tanker from the onset, so there could be a chance at swapping the Cobham AAR pods with the UPAZ pods. The aircraft also uses the same engine type as the A320 (V2500). However, it's new and unproven. The PAF isn't going to touch it until it can thoroughly test it in Pakistan.
OTOH, the C-130J-30 is a proven beast. The saying, "only a Herc can replace a Herc" really means something as the majority of old C-130 users replaced their old aircraft with new versions. We already have a support base for the Rolls-Royce AE 2100 (via Saab 2000), giving us a starting point to take on the C-130J-30's requirements.
The Js or the 390s?They will arrive here in mid-2023, then we will take it to the limits. They will land on the Madeira/Azores Islands with that Shity weather, they will land in the dusty CAR with no land support etc.
C390 Millenleum, the J is more than tested all aroundThe Js or the 390s?
Are the spaniards going for it?C390 Millenleum, the J is more than tested all around
PORTUGUESE AIR FORCE will receive 5 aircraft starting in 2023, the aircraft are partialy built in PORTUGAL. The SPANISH AIR FORCE allready operate the A400M.Are the spaniards going for it?
The A-400 though is a slightly different weight class 37t payload and the 390 provides a pretty neat middle ground at 26-29t versus the J’s 20t.PORTUGUESE AIR FORCE will receive 5 aircraft starting in 2023, the aircraft are partialy built in PORTUGAL. The SPANISH AIR FORCE allready operate the A400M.