Pakistan Air Force Transport

[ali_raza]

This is why I was suggesting, maybe this would be a cheaper option for us, instead of getting refuelers with booms.

don’t u think we should rather have our own transport platform with middle eastern or chinese

 

[Blacklight]

This Concept was tried and promoted without any customer success the customer interested already fly boom system

If you are referring to the Blk60's with the CFT, this was for the Indian Air Force, not UAEAF.

 

[Blacklight]

don’t u think we should rather have our own transport platform with middle eastern or chinese

The main advantage of western systems is the COTS and availability of parts.

With the Chinese, unless there is a serious % of ToT OR complete independent MRO, best not to go down that road.

As to the Middle East, the Saudis were doing a JV with with Antonov 132, that project was abandoned, so not sure what they are up to now.

@The SC @Philip the Arab Can you Gents update us on any Trnspt a/c progs in the ME?

 

[The SC]

The main advantage of western systems is the COTS and availability of parts.

With the Chinese, unless there is a serious % of ToT OR complete independent MRO, best not to go down that road.

As to the Middle East, the Saudis were doing a JV with with Antonov 132, that project was abandoned, so not sure what they are up to now.

@The SC @Philip the Arab Can you Gents update us on any Trnspt a/c progs in the ME?

That project of the AN132 is still alive it has just changed hands when SAMI was established..There is a huge airplane factory being built in KSA with the latest space manufacturing technologies..

 

[Scorpiooo]

This is why I was suggesting, maybe this would be a cheaper option for us, instead of getting refuelers with booms.

Then PAF need to upgrade existing non block 52 with these CFT,
What will be the cost per aircraft any idea

 

[Scorpiooo]

The main advantage of western systems is the COTS and availability of parts.

With the Chinese, unless there is a serious % of ToT OR complete independent MRO, best not to go down that road.

As to the Middle East, the Saudis were doing a JV with with Antonov 132, that project was abandoned, so not sure what they are up to now.

@The SC @Philip the Arab Can you Gents update us on any Trnspt a/c progs in the ME?

What your opinion on Y20 based tanker with Chinese engine ... In long run y20 it will good platform for heavy weight lifting and refueling

 

[Blacklight]

Then PAF need to upgrade existing non block 52 with these CFT,
What will be the cost per aircraft any idea

No idea

What your opinion on Y20 based tanker with Chinese engine ... In long run y20 it will good platform for heavy weight lifting and refueling

Pakistan Air Force Transport

This is why I was suggesting, maybe this would be a cheaper option for us, instead of getting refuelers with booms. don’t u think we should rather have our own transport platform with middle eastern or chinese

defence.pk

 

[Philip the Arab]

@Blacklight
Nothing yet, although i think in the next 5 or so years we will see a turboprop transport platform developed by Calidus in the UAE.

 

[ali_raza]

The main advantage of western systems is the COTS and availability of parts.

With the Chinese, unless there is a serious % of ToT OR complete independent MRO, best not to go down that road.

As to the Middle East, the Saudis were doing a JV with with Antonov 132, that project was abandoned, so not sure what they are up to now.

@The SC @Philip the Arab Can you Gents update us on any Trnspt a/c progs in the ME?

pakistan can join saudi project with local inputs
or take saab safari route but traditional design as a whole and developing on it
saab can be good option

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

In 2006, Pakistan participated in RIAT for the first time, when the Air Tattoo’s theme was Rapid Global Effect. PAF covered its Hercules C-130 with beautifully painted murals of the humanitarian efforts undertaken after the earthquake. The display and crew were well-received and the team won multiple awards. These awards included winning the Concours d’ Elegance competition, the Page Aerospace Trophy as well as the BAE Systems’ Trophy for winning the Spirit of the Meet competition.

 

[ghazi52]

F-27 was inducted in PAF in 1965. After the F-27 air crash on Feb, 2003 (in which PAF Air Chief and 16 other men lost their lives) the last and final F-27 serving in PAF was phased out in 2004.

 

[ghazi52]

Military Cognizance


Ukrainian firm Ukrspetsexport signed a contract with the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) to repair its IL-78 aerial refueling aircraft .

The agreement was signed on the second day of the "Arms and Security-2021" exhibition currently on in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev.
"Today, Ukrspetsexport, represented by its General Director Vadym Nozdri, signed a contract with Pakistani partners for the repair of another (second) IL-78 refueling aircraft," the company announced on its Facebook page.
In June of last year, DK "Ukrspetsexport" won a multi-million dollar tender to repair the first of the PAF’s IL-78 refueling aircraft. That contract for the repair of the fuel tanker has already been successfully fulfilled by the State Enterprise, Mykolaiv Air Repair Plant, the announcement said.
In addition, the Ukrainian side received confirmation of the intentions of the PAF to conclude the next package of contracts for the overhaul of two more refueling aircraft. The (repair) package is worth more than $30 million for all four planes.
Pakistan purchased 4 Il-78 aircraft from Ukraine in 2008 equipped with with Russian-designed UPAZ refueling pods, Full operation began by 2010. The refueling pods on the IL-78 Midas aircraft are suitable to refuel the PAF’s JF-17 jets.

 

[Akh1112]

Then PAF need to upgrade existing non block 52 with these CFT,
What will be the cost per aircraft any idea

They use Israeli tech.

 

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Military Cognizance


Ukrainian firm Ukrspetsexport signed a contract with the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) to repair its IL-78 aerial refueling aircraft .

The agreement was signed on the second day of the "Arms and Security-2021" exhibition currently on in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev.
"Today, Ukrspetsexport, represented by its General Director Vadym Nozdri, signed a contract with Pakistani partners for the repair of another (second) IL-78 refueling aircraft," the company announced on its Facebook page.
In June of last year, DK "Ukrspetsexport" won a multi-million dollar tender to repair the first of the PAF’s IL-78 refueling aircraft. That contract for the repair of the fuel tanker has already been successfully fulfilled by the State Enterprise, Mykolaiv Air Repair Plant, the announcement said.
In addition, the Ukrainian side received confirmation of the intentions of the PAF to conclude the next package of contracts for the overhaul of two more refueling aircraft. The (repair) package is worth more than $30 million for all four planes.
Pakistan purchased 4 Il-78 aircraft from Ukraine in 2008 equipped with with Russian-designed UPAZ refueling pods, Full operation began by 2010. The refueling pods on the IL-78 Midas aircraft are suitable to refuel the PAF’s JF-17 jets.

any news on what will be upgraded?