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[ghazi52]

 

[Path-Finder]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1035535352109387778

 

[Amigator]

Slightly off topic but worth sharing..

In a recent conversation, a GDP friend revealed that the jf-17 houses undisclosed EW package from a European country. The block 2 version had the f-16 blk 52 in trouble multiple times during BVR mock simulations. At the moment, thunder pilots are having an upper hand over the blk 52 jockeys in terms of A-A kills.

If true, its really impressive!

 

[SherDil]

What about Air Shows on PAF Air Bases on 6th Sep ??
Any update

 

[Arsalan]

So here,

Apologies to bulldoze your area of influence but this kinda caught my attention.

So... you are sure about it like you salvaged Italian M 109s?

and this was the post you quoted:

yup, have been hearing this for some 5 6 years now, some day, it is BOUND to happen

My question, as you asked me to put it as a question.

DO YOU THINK THAT PAF WILL NEVER BUY A NEW PLANE,,, EVER?



Secondly, you mentioned "you are sure about it like you salvaged Italian M 109s". I did not understood what you meant by this, referring to some post i made or are you saying that M109s were never inducted or what?

 

[Path-Finder]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1036557063139287040

 

[HRK]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1036557063139287040

nope the first but apparently 6th JF-17 from the initial batch of 8 JF-17, previously we were aware about the overhaul of three JF-17 till March-17 in Pakistan

 

[salman-1]

Only 3 are being overhauled there. Read the banner.

It's pac rather.

 

[volatile]

At what interval we need to overhaul it ,also chances are these are 2007 models so 11 years not a bad

Only 3 are being overhauled there. Read the banner.

It's pac rather.

 

[HRK]

At what interval we need to overhaul it

for blk-I https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/jf-1...ighter-thread-7.427560/page-369#post-10760322

also chances are these are 2007 models so 11 years not a bad

yes 8 first came from China PAF as part of SBP PAC start its production in March-2009 and first JF-17 built in Pakistan was 09-111 with only 20% share of in-house manufacturing

 

[salman-1]

Frankly speaking the flight hrs mentioned 7-800hr doesn't match the time period for an overhaul. If 200 on average a year which is also very low for a new aircraft, which goes a lot of flight tests, training, weapons integration, pilot training etc 10 years simply makes out 2000 hrs. Paf might have used or changed engine shafts and other moving parts with a better quality materials for longer life span.
One example is of engine harnesses imported first from France and then later PAC actually set up the plant for it. All was for Jf17. Other developments might be secret.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Its also likely that this is a pattern aircraft to put down procedures in tandem with CAC of doing a complete overhaul. The prior ones performed in PAC might have been as extensive as this one (my speculation here) and hence the reason this is news worthy.
Either case, PAF was bound to have to overhaul its fleet at some point and hopefully they have factored in the capacity and capabilities of PAC to run both the production line as well as the overhaul of jets in parallel and actually planned for it. Given the production of newer aircraft has atleast another ten year run ahead of it, and we are planning to start the Azm project down the line, they ought to train and hire a sizeable workforce for sustained operations.

 

[messiach]

Correct info but additional reasons exist.

Its also likely that this is a pattern aircraft to put down procedures in tandem with CAC of doing a complete overhaul.

 

[blinder]

for blk-I https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/jf-1...ighter-thread-7.427560/page-369#post-10760322

yes 8 first came from China PAF as part of SBP PAC start its production in March-2009 and first JF-17 built in Pakistan was 09-111 with only 20% share of in-house manufacturing
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09-111 was marked FC10011
Does this mean it is from the pre production series too?

I always thought that only 8 SBP were FC1 0001 to FC1 0008 and then FC1 0101 onward for Block I?
With 09-112 being FC1 0104, you would expect 09-111 to be FC1 0103...

Or is this a painter's mistake

 

[HRK]

09-111 was marked FC10011
Does this mean it is from the pre production series too?

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Chinese style nomenclature for JF-17 we have seen many such examples such as
Serial Production SP-37 = Fighter China-1 FC10137 (Chinese)

For PAF JF-17 12-137

FC10232=JF-17 232

I always thought that only 8 SBP were FC1 0001 to FC1 0008 and then FC1 0101 onward for Block I?
With 09-112 being FC1 0104, you would expect 09-111 to be FC1 0103...

Or is this a painter's mistake

for production run following table would be helpful

China made Central back fuselage of JF-17 PAC make front Fuselage, wings (both) and vertical tail so all Chinese made sections are number in FC1 series like FC10xxx