Pakistan agrees to send ships to block arms shipments to Yemen rebels

[mingle]

Two warships already in the area in part of task force more then good enough to show our flag and help block arms from reaching the rebels more then good enough no more needed or can be offered not our war to fight we have our hands full .

We have too we can't afford to lose friends at rapid pace due to lack of our inaction .try to hide behind parliment is very old tactis but how many time motion passed by the same parliment implemented ?what about drone strikes ?i think Govt did a right move to give a policy statement and should move couple of sqd of jets as well .Boots on ground I don't think saudi will invade like we have seen in Iraq by yanks .but we should creat two divs of troops mimimum stationed in kingdom and keep rotating them .pak must come out of this paranoia of this and that if and but.Gcc R our friends and we may need them in future as well .my two cents next step is airforce deployment with troops deployment .just beating the chest when someone needs U not gonna work we should beat the chest shamefully as well when we beg for bail out money .its decided on principle that army with Air Force is going to kingdom .

I think this is the best option at this current point in time.
We can't demand mediation in this conflict while the Houthis are armed and running about. Every single ceasefire and agreement signed between the Houthis and the Yemeni government had been broken by the Houthis who continued to attack military installations and expand their territory. The Houthis will obviously not be willing to come to the negotiation table in light of such victories, so we must first weaken then. This is the only way.

We doing same silly things what we did about Talibans policy .did anybody came to us for mediation ?Good thing is military and govt r clear about it they want our help we have work on it it won't be a big deal to move 50 k troops to kingdom we have that number .

Boots on ground can change many things and PA will not do this. Iranians know Pakistan does not want to involve itself in middle east power struggle.

Why not ?whY is this paranoia ?what iran can do to pak lets talk about it .Irans plate is full they fighting in Iraq and Syria at the same in Afghanistan U think they can open another front with pak who has nukes and big population they not idiots for sure .

But remember Saudi Arabia and UAE Minister recently insulted Pakistan were not very nice and deeply bad languages. I think, Pakistan should better stay in neutrality policy and focus our home only.

When u try to be goofy at diplomatic level then what u expect ?one side U say we r neutral and same time we say we r with saudia which statement is correct !

Height of stupidity, once KSA was asking for help we were sitting on eggs in our ignorance. And couldn't improve our long term relationship, but when UN pitch in then we are now just ready for the help, whatever they are asking. So for argument sack, when KSA ask us to help them beat Al Houthis militants, it was wrong to kill muslim, but when UN (lead by non muslims) ask then it become legal to kill Muslims.

Pakistani Government and Establishment has shittest attitude when it comes to improve our relationship with our brotherly nations.

Now we will help them, and also become wrong on both Al Houthis as well Arabs point of view.

Have u heard 100 onions and 100 jootey that fit on pak .we r going there but after all this chest beating ?

 

[Farah Sohail]

We have too we can't afford to lose friends at rapid pace due to lack of our inaction .try to hide behind parliment is very old tactis but how many time motion passed by the same parliment implemented ?what about drone strikes ?i think Govt did a right move to give a policy statement and should move couple of sqd of jets as well .Boots on ground I don't think saudi will invade like we have seen in Iraq by yanks .but we should creat two divs of troops mimimum stationed in kingdom and keep rotating them .pak must come out of this paranoia of this and that if and but.Gcc R our friends and we may need them in future as well .my two cents next step is airforce deployment with troops deployment .just beating the chest when someone needs U not gonna work we should beat the chest shamefully as well when we beg for bail out money .its decided on principle that army with Air Force is going to kingdom .

Although i agree with you tht we should send atleast small number of troops to KSA for its internal stability..not for Yemen...coz we cant afford to lose friends.....but i doubt what u said in bold is actually true... Almost every news article ..tht is coming....says tht we have declined to send troops to KSA... Even the article..on which this thread is based...talks only abt naval ships and says tht military has declined for now, to send any troops to KSA, even for mutual exercise with Egypt, KSA...

 

[mingle]

Although i agree with you tht we should send atleast small number of troops to KSA for its internal stability..not for Yemen...coz we cant afford to lose friends.....but i doubt what u said in bold is actually true... Almost every news article ..tht is coming....says tht we have declined to send troops to KSA... Even the article..on which this thread is based...talks only abt naval ships and says tht military has declined for now, to send any troops to KSA, even for mutual exercise with Egypt, KSA...

Why the DGMO s of all forces R going there this Monday ?pak can't afford to loose kingdom reality is that pak is cash strap country and even in future we may need theior help money wise .pak is going there for sure truth is bitter if u remove 8 billions from current money we have we stand for a month .they helped us we should help them hiding behind the parliment or making excuses not good Arabs not kids .

 

[Farah Sohail]

Why the DGMO s of all forces R going there this Monday ?pak can't afford to loose kingdom reality is that pak is cash strap country and even in future we may need theior help money wise .pak is going there for sure .

Where did u read this news...tht on Monday...DGMOs of al forces are going to KSA? I havent seen or read this, anywhere in media or news article.. Infact the article in this thread ...says tht theres a chance of Raheel Sharif going to KSA soon... But i doubt tht will be on Monday as Chinese President is coming for 2 days.... So, the earliest..he can go, i think will be Wednesday... Other than tht, havent heard any news of DGMOS going.. Where did u read this?

 

[mingle]

Where did u read this news...tht on Monday...DGMOs of al forces are going to KSA? I havent seen or read this, anywhere in media or news article.. Infact the article in this thread ...says tht theres a chance of Raheel Sharif going to KSA soon... But i doubt tht will be on Monday as Chinese President is coming for 2 days.... So, the earliest..he can go, i think will be Wednesday... Other than tht, havent heard any news of DGMOS going.. Where did u read this?

I read in paper that military delegation going this Monday but guy was telling me not monday but Wednesday but if Cheif going ?then it's Wednesday but it will be big delegation .pak has no choice but stick with partners and friends .

 

[Farah Sohail]

I read in paper that military delegation going this Monday but guy was telling me not monday but Wednesday but if Cheif going ?then it's Wednesday but it will be big delegation .pak has no choice but stick with partners and friends .

Good if its true... Cant afford to annoy KSA... But we shouldnt be sending our forces to Yemen...but yes, for KSA internal security and stability...we should.... Can u plz give me the link of tht newspaper also? In which paper..it was?

 

[mingle]

Good if its true... Cant afford to annoy KSA... But we shouldnt be sending our forces to Yemen...but yes, for KSA internal security and stability...we should.... Can u plz give me the link of tht newspaper also? In which paper..it was?

I think I read in dunya or jang when SS went to kingdom.we r annoying them due our inactions I mean it's nonsense I am with U but I am neutral then what u expect them others .i don't think it will be wise move to invade Yemen but covert actions will happen with the help of hadi militia we will be part of it ?let it to be classified .

 

[The SC]

I meant Iran.

I don't care who is evil Arabs or Iran, but our relationship with Arabs are fair and We helped them atleast atleast 15 times on different occasions. So making mess out of whole 65 years relationship will be a stupidity. I believe the first stand that we will help KSA in protecting boarders was the best one.

why Arab can't handle Iran is for a reason, Arab countries are not military powerful . Only Iraq had some power but them they are also gone now. on the top, Arab are use of having luxuries life didn't face hardshiips. While on the other hand, Iran kept fighting in the history, they are still sanctioned by the world so know how to face tough times. On the top, they have nothing to loss as compare to Arabs. They are united as hell, and a close community, all this makes them unknown, and powerful.

All together the Arabs are very powerful militarily, it is just that you seem to think that KSA and GCC are the only Arabs, you are forgetting the main Arab masses of Egypt, North Africa, Sudan, (Syria and Iraq, eventhough we do not count them for the moment) and many others, most of which had faced wars and hardships too. Short of sanctions, some of them more than Iran, like the war in North Africa between Algeria and Morocco that lasted 17 years, the civil war in Algeria that lasted for almost 10 years, The wars of Egypt against Usrael, in 1956 to1973, that is 15 years of non stop wars, The war in Sudan to split it up, the Iraq war, the Syrian ongoing war and Yemen of course with a 30 year war.
You have targeted a tree but have missed the whole forest in your throw.
The point is, neither the Arabs nor the Iranians want to face each other, they have rather chosen to face their real enemies together, by first trying to find where does this revived sectarianism comes from, eliminate it and concentrate on trade and scientific advancements that will benefit both. Second, by combining their forces they can guarantee the middle east's security and peace with minimum external presence...
Do not ever fool yourself or let it be fooled about the Arabs, there was just a bunch of them armed with Islam and a deep faith in God who had conquered most of the known world.
God knows better, and if he had chosen the Arabs (at least the original bunch who has carried his message) to carry his words, they must have been worthy of it, able and willing. The fact that the Koran too was sent in Arabic is another powerful indicator of the Arabs character.

Pakistan is supporting any peace initiative that can save Yemen from its internal wars and conflicts, and if the Houttis are the main culprits then cutting their arm supplies! is a good Idea.
Yemen is a bit like Afghanistan, any ground war will be a prolonged war, that no one wants , including the US who has tried too. So the only solution seems to be a political one...

 

[mkg00179504]

Pakistan should avoid any of such differentiation, otherwise it can come hard Pakistani Community. In-factwhi, they should have avoided even disclosing such news. But give big no for such differentiation, Pakistan is Muslim country, and they will help in protecting Saudi Boarders. Which is country's stand not some community.

True, and it will also have a bad impact on our own military by sidelining the shite officers and soldiers. Saudi may be able to this in their own country but in our military we all fights as Pakistani no Sunni , shite stuff.

 

[TOPGUN]

We have too we can't afford to lose friends at rapid pace due to lack of our inaction .try to hide behind parliment is very old tactis but how many time motion passed by the same parliment implemented ?what about drone strikes ?i think Govt did a right move to give a policy statement and should move couple of sqd of jets as well .Boots on ground I don't think saudi will invade like we have seen in Iraq by yanks .but we should creat two divs of troops mimimum stationed in kingdom and keep rotating them .pak must come out of this paranoia of this and that if and but.Gcc R our friends and we may need them in future as well .my two cents next step is airforce deployment with troops deployment .just beating the chest when someone needs U not gonna work we should beat the chest shamefully as well when we beg for bail out money .its decided on principle that army with Air Force is going to kingdom .


We doing same silly things what we did about Talibans policy .did anybody came to us for mediation ?Good thing is military and govt r clear about it they want our help we have work on it it won't be a big deal to move 50 k troops to kingdom we have that number .


Why not ?whY is this paranoia ?what iran can do to pak lets talk about it .Irans plate is full they fighting in Iraq and Syria at the same in Afghanistan U think they can open another front with pak who has nukes and big population they not idiots for sure .


When u try to be goofy at diplomatic level then what u expect ?one side U say we r neutral and same time we say we r with saudia which statement is correct !


Have u heard 100 onions and 100 jootey that fit on pak .we r going there but after all this chest beating ?

Agreed to some degree however, it can not be afforded at the present time we have to take small steps and not big ones we will end up paying a lot now and even later if we join rather then pay to some degree in the future with the arabs ... Pakistan needs to stand on its own once and for all there are no friends in this game its all pure politics trust me.

 

[mingle]

Agreed to some degree however, it can not be afforded at the present time we have to take small steps and not big ones we will end up paying a lot now and even later if we join rather then pay to some degree in the future with the arabs ... Pakistan needs to stand on its own once and for all there are no friends in this game its all pure politics trust me.

True but a what cost ?what u taking about is worth of 40 yrs ahead but pak has more benefits then the lose here plus in modren politics there is no neutral its either u with us or againest us .its not baby step either i mean one santance we r neutral other sentance we r with saudia .

 

[New World]

@Fracker any news of about Oman for not joining alliance in NEWS there.

 

[Fracker]

@Fracker any news of about Oman for not joining alliance in NEWS there.

They are in alliance what's so ever. They said they will provide escape route, medical facilities to injured. Anyhow, everyone knows oman is closer to Iran, and is not a military power. So it was expected from them, so other GCC didn't even insisted.