PAKISTAN: Afghans Find Their Welcome Running Out

[Ahmad]

^^^^How ?

 

[Truth Teller]

^^

It's not only Pakistanis complaining about all these crimes comitted by afghan refugees.

Tajikistanis and Iranians are victims of this barbarism too.

 

[roadrunner]

Refugees are always a convenient scapegoat for the failure of police and politicians.

In any case, don't you see it is pointless discussion? These Afghan refugees will not be allowed to live in their host communities if they were unpopular.

You might think they are unpopular, but that is not what the communities think who are hosting them.

 

[Ahmad]

^^

It's not only Pakistanis complaining about all these crimes comitted by afghan refugees.

Tajikistanis and Iranians are victims of this barbarism too.

Thanks for calling us barbarians!!! We are very poor people, with devastated country, but we sure are not criminals!!! You just called us criminals, we do have criminals amongs us like other countries, but we are not a nation of criminals. Not long ago Jack Straw(to be fair Straw was not the only person saying this) said something about Pakistani men being Sex Predators, and here in this forum everybody jumped from everywhere and condemned J.Straw with many reasons, if those arguments apply to Pakistanis in the UK, then the same thing can be applied to us in Pakistan.

 

[Truth Teller]

Thanks for calling us barbarians!!!

It's okay. No need to thank me.

 

[53fd]

you are banking your strategic leverage in afganistan by supporting fighting....but there would be many who like to live in peace...

It is a myth that Pashtun nationalist leaders or the Northern Alliance are peaceful as compared to the Taliban. In fact, the Northern Alliance have been shown as more ruthless and violent than them in power. This does not mean I endorse the Taliban in any way, or even remotely have an appreciation for them.

 

[53fd]

We are very poor people, with devastated country, but we sure are not criminals!!! You just called us criminals, we do have criminals amongs us like other countries, but we are not a nation of criminals.

It is a fact that some poor Afghan refugees have unfortunately smuggled a lot of things into the country, including drugs; as well as developed a gun culture here, and even contributed greatly to prostitution and petty crimes. On top of that, they are a huge burden on the state and the Pakistani people. And on top of that, they feed Pakistani Pakhtuns with ideas of separatism and Pashtunistan!

Some more details:

Islamabad: Govt cancels over 80,000 CNICs issued to Afghan refugees | Pakistan Criminal Records

 

[Frankenstein]

Forty-four-year-old Jamila Bibi even says that she fears her children would
starve to death and that she would soon be reduced to begging for a living. ”I
had been working as a home servant (before),” says Bibi. ”But now the local
communities are reluctant to offer jobs to Afghan women.”

I can feel you Jamila Bibi, but some Pakistanis here are living worst life then she is, and as far as her claim about reluctant to offer jobs to Afghan women is total bs

I think rather then asking that what has Pakistan given to them, they should ask what have they given to Pakistan??

 

[Ahmad]

We are very poor people, with devastated country, but we sure are not criminals!!! You just called us criminals, we do have criminals amongs us like other countries, but we are not a nation of criminals.

It is a fact that some poor Afghan refugees have unfortunately smuggled a lot of things into the country, including drugs; as well as developed a gun culture here, and even contributed greatly to prostitution and terrorism. On top of that, they are a huge burden on the state and the Pakistani people. And on top of that, they feed Pakistani Pakhtuns with ideas of separatism and Pashtunistan!

Some more details:

Islamabad: Govt cancels over 80,000 CNICs issued to Afghan refugees | Pakistan Criminal Records

And perhaps pakistani men are the sex predators which is causing this problem in the UK? You cant choose what you like. I dont deny that there are criminals among us doing criminal activities in pakistan, that is natural among every people having good and bad. But everytime your authorities are incapable of doing their job they simply hit the soft target and that is the refugees.

As per Pashtun nationalism promoted by the Afghans, i can tell you it is BS, not all of us want to split pakistan in the name of Pashtunism. Pashtuns of Afghanistan all and without exception want NWFP back, be it the islamists or the secularists, that is the reality. Do the other people in Afghanistan want NWFP to be part of Afghanistan? This is a big NO!! As a Tajik, you tell me why should I love NWFP to be part of Afghanistan? Any logic for that?

 

[Ahmad]

It is a fact that some poor Afghan refugees have unfortunately smuggled a lot of things into the country, including drugs; as well as developed a gun culture here, and even contributed greatly to prostitution and petty crimes. On top of that, they are a huge burden on the state and the Pakistani people. And on top of that, they feed Pakistani Pakhtuns with ideas of separatism and Pashtunistan!

Smuggling is done by both pakistanis and Afghans, not sure why you only balme us. Drugs cultivation and big drug lords is always been in tribal areas, nothing to do with us. As per gun culture, i am sure that afghanistan has not reached to a state to produce guns!! we never had gun culture in afghanistan, on the other hand gun culture have always been part of proud clture of NWFP and FATA. Flow of gun started to come to AFghanistan from the USSR and on the other hand from Pakistan.

 

[53fd]

^^^

I am not talking about the Tajiks and the Uzbeks, although Uzbeks have caused havoc in Pakistan's FATA region by joining Al-Qaeda and other affiliate Uzbek Islamic organizations that commit terrorism against innocent Pakistanis every day. I was mainly talking about the abundant Afghan Pashtuns who have been made to feel more than welcome in Pakistan by its people and the state, and who have repaid this hospitality by toying around with the idea of separatism in the minds of Pakistani Pakhtuns. This is the reason why you sometimes see big billboards in public areas of Peshawar today with the slogan of 'Pashtunistan', when frankly, it is the Afghan Pashtuns that don't want to leave Pakistan, as compared to the Pakistani Pakhtuns.

 

[Ahmad]

^^^

I am not talking about the Tajiks and the Uzbeks, although Uzbeks have caused havoc in Pakistan's FATA region by joining Al-Qaeda and other affiliate Uzbek Islamic organizations that commit terrorism against innocent Pakistanis every day. .

Those are not nationals of AFghansitan. Best of luck if you catch and kill them, they are causing problem for us as well.

 

[Spring Onion]

Not irresponsible words.

These were more than irresponsible words. mixing few facts with hateful emotions always distorts things

 

[Frankenstein]

more Afganis Hate Pakistan through there guts, not a big surprise, I wonder why they come here, eat our food, but still waste there time on cursing us, rather then that they should thank Allah for what He have given them

 

[Spring Onion]

We are very poor people, with devastated country, but we sure are not criminals!!! You just called us criminals, we do have criminals amongs us like other countries, but we are not a nation of criminals.

It is a fact that some poor Afghan refugees have unfortunately smuggled a lot of things into the country, including drugs; as well as developed a gun culture here, and even contributed greatly to prostitution and petty crimes. On top of that, they are a huge burden on the state and the Pakistani people. And on top of that, they feed Pakistani Pakhtuns with ideas of separatism and Pashtunistan!

Some more details:

Islamabad: Govt cancels over 80,000 CNICs issued to Afghan refugees | Pakistan Criminal Records

I had done this report in the past few months back and i can tell you all of these 80K were not specific to Afghanistanis.

The most horrific thing is which needs to be pondered that we PAKISTANIS are facilitating these CNICs' issuance to foreigners.

So the onus is on us not on them