Pakistan admits India attack link

[pama]

hay Pama when you guys are going to ALLOW amnesty international in to Kashmir to check you atrocities.

You have been refusing to allow it for years, why, if u r so called democratic and have nothing to hide, why are u than stopping amnesty international from entering Kashmir, I have yet to see one of you to say anything about it, on the other hand u r yelling in the loudest about Bombay. Why such hypocrisy.

India is always blowing its own horn.

why do't you answer my q first
Do Pak army support LeT?

 

[notsuperstitious]

hay Pama when you guys are going to ALLOW amnesty international in to Kashmir to check you atrocities.

Hey ASQ, when u allow interpol to interrogate AQ Khan and when u prosecute the war criminals of 1971 and when u stop human rights violations in peaceful balochistan.

 

[Moscow]

sir
both pakistan and india needs to get over this kashmir obsession.

pakistan seems to justify mumbai type attacks by linking it to the oppression of kashmiris by the indians
but when these similar kind of attacks take place in pakistan them they say they are suffering the consequences for acting against the rogue elements.

actually all these is leading the whole region to unstability,the whole point comes down to kashmir, both must stop this fanatic obsession with kashmir whatever is the state today is because of it.

for ages pakistan stood for the kashmir isuue now what is it gaining nothing but instability in its whole backyard and now they have no-one else to blame and the same applies to india.
so friends please isolate kashmir from india-pakistan relations and things will fall in place ,every practical pakistani and indian knows that there is no changing the kashmir issue.it will stay the same as it is now both nuclear armed neighbours cannot recover the whole of kashmir from one another,the only other option would be that in case of a conflict both the countries test thier nuclear arsenal in that disputed piece of land and turn the whole mass of land into a curse.
so please get over with the obsession.

thanx

 

[asq]

Taliban is supported by Pakistan state.
ISI has support them and LeT.
video by Rashid
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This Rashid guy is clueless, as he blames Pakistan whereas the fact of the matter that i have noted in a post before about how Pakistan had to fight against Russia, against Northern Alliance and now against Taliban who were allies of west when fighting northern alliance. it has been 28 years, Poor Afghans have born the worst brunt of it and these guys siting in their ivory towers tell Pakistan and poor Afghans that they are wrong.

in doing so we have spent trillion in this war in 28 years depriving our country, good education, good water good electricity and infrastructure, did any body come to our help,no all these critics siting on their big fat sofas are oblivious of the facts how Pakistan has suffered.

instead they pic on it to save their big fat salaried jobs, they are not true to the U.S. as they are not telling the facts thereby getting U.S. into wrong frame of mind and are using their personal agendas to advance for their gains at the risk of their country that gave them such fantastic opportunities and security.

 

[asq]

sir
both pakistan and india needs to get over this kashmir obsession.

pakistan seems to justify mumbai type attacks by linking it to the oppression of kashmiris by the indians
but when these similar kind of attacks take place in pakistan them they say they are suffering the consequences for acting against the rogue elements.

actually all these is leading the whole region to unstability,the whole point comes down to kashmir, both must stop this fanatic obsession with kashmir whatever is the state today is because of it.

for ages pakistan stood for the kashmir isuue now what is it gaining nothing but instability in its whole backyard and now they have no-one else to blame and the same applies to india.
so friends please isolate kashmir from India-Pakistan relations and things will fall in place ,every practical pakistani and indian knows that there is no changing the kashmir issue.it will stay the same as it is now both nuclear armed neighbours cannot recover the whole of kashmir from one another,the only other option would be that in case of a conflict both the countries test thier nuclear arsenal in that disputed piece of land and turn the whole mass of land into a curse.
so please get over with the obsession.

thanx

Hay Moscow man, why don't you allow Chechen the freedom to choose the path they want to and stop favoring India, Your country and India must accept the responsibility of being a member in good standing to apply the rules before advising others, apply the U.N resolutions passed for Chechen and for Kashmir, only after u have done so than come and advice us. there should be a Law that if a country does not apply the rules, the country should be thrown out of the U.N. and that should go for every one of all the U.N. members.

U sit in the highest position in U.N. and yet do not follow its resolutions. Can u tell me why.

watch this and tell me what is going on in Chechnya.

We do not condone any criminal acts, but in order for us to [prosecute we need ironclad proofs. Indian pussy footed for it and gave us instructions through their media, that is not how it works in courts of law.

Once the proof is there we will prosecute the guy if proven guilty, as u know that we cannot call him guilty until proven in the court of Law, only accused.

 

[Moscow]

Hay Moscow man, why don't you allow Chechen the freedom to choose the path they want to and stop favoring India, You r country and India must accept and apply the U.N resolutions passed for Chechen and for Kashmir, only after u have done so than come and advice us.

U sit in the highest position in U.N. and yet do not follow its resolutions. Can u tell me why.

yes sir i can tell you why? just ask your ally america how they follow the un resolutions when they started their war in iraq, for 50 years and still now they are your ally right why dont you ask your good friend china to come out in the un about the tibet issue first get your points clean then talk about chechen.

also i did not adress thje post to you particularl because i knew this would be your response. if you do not agree with my ideas its fine stop equating me with the policies of the indians,i do not support anyone this this forum i only support my points.moreover i am not incharge of my countries foreign policies what i speak in this forum is my personal opinion.
no offence but just get this straight " snatch away chechen from russia if you can .just try it " before that remember what happened to georgia the us and nato and eu where were they during the conflict.
thanx

 

[asq]

Hey ASQ, when u allow interpol to interrogate AQ Khan and when u prosecute the war criminals of 1971 and when u stop human rights violations in peaceful balochistan.

Do not mention Baluchistan, it is Pakistan's internal affair, u Indian have the habit of sticking your nose where it does not belong.
and if there are any criminal it is India that is killing innocents in Kashmir for 60 years and interfered in East Pakistan's internal affairs. And about A.Q. Khan, courts have spoken and the case is closed, again do not poke your nose into internal affairs of Pakistan, u r not U.N. u don't even follow U.N. resolutions, so you have no leg to stand on, so move on buddy.

As i said do not stick your nose into other affairs. Cupish

 

[asq]

yes sir i can tell you why? just ask your ally america how they follow the un resolutions when they started their war in iraq, for 50 years and still now they are your ally right why dont you ask your good friend china to come out in the un about the tibet issue first get your points clean then talk about chechen.

also i did not adress thje post to you particularl because i knew this would be your response. if you do not agree with my ideas its fine stop equating me with the policies of the indians,i do not support anyone this this forum i only support my points.moreover i am not incharge of my countries foreign policies what i speak in this forum is my personal opinion.
no offence but just get this straight " snatch away chechen from russia if you can .just try it " before that remember what happened to georgia the us and nato and eu where were they during the conflict.
thanx

We do not not interfere into others affairs, and i only answer the question u asked, go threaten someone else about what happened in Georgia.

Note. Unlike Georgia we have the nukes, in case you did not know. and we will defend ourselves, but we will not be the first one to use. we stand by our commitment to safe this world from a catastrophe, but we have the right to defend, I hope it does not come to that and cool heads prevail and peace is achieved on the bases of fairness and not bullyness in this world.

 

[asq]

Dude, what are you talking about? what does permitting Amnesty have to do with Mumbai? Please give better arguments.

Again u play dumb, let me open you brain, we have got the facts and we will prosecute, now you should prosecute any thing that we give you the facts of and in Kashmir you have been committing atrocities and we want an international body to investigate, u have no objection on that do you.

you guys asked about Bombay attacks and we comply, now we ask you about Kashmir and i hope being such a clever people that u r you will allow amnesty.

 

[Moscow]

We do not not interfere into others affairs, and i only answer the question u asked, go threaten someone else about what happened in Georgia.

siri did not ask any question at all i just posted my views on the current situation in south asia you might not agree with me and i respect your opinion i that way but why attack my nationality and bring a whole different issue of chechen and UN into this that was the whole point.

i am not threatening anybody neither am i the sort to post a fiery statement to offend members the whole point is that if you yourself are strong enough nobody even dare to interfere thats what i meant when i posted the indians and pakistanis to get over the kashmir fixation and aim at strengthening at the root of the system.

thanx

 

[Patriot]

sir
both pakistan and india needs to get over this kashmir obsession.

pakistan seems to justify mumbai type attacks by linking it to the oppression of kashmiris by the indians
but when these similar kind of attacks take place in pakistan them they say they are suffering the consequences for acting against the rogue elements.

actually all these is leading the whole region to unstability,the whole point comes down to kashmir, both must stop this fanatic obsession with kashmir whatever is the state today is because of it.

for ages pakistan stood for the kashmir isuue now what is it gaining nothing but instability in its whole backyard and now they have no-one else to blame and the same applies to india.
so friends please isolate kashmir from india-pakistan relations and things will fall in place ,every practical pakistani and indian knows that there is no changing the kashmir issue.it will stay the same as it is now both nuclear armed neighbours cannot recover the whole of kashmir from one another,the only other option would be that in case of a conflict both the countries test thier nuclear arsenal in that disputed piece of land and turn the whole mass of land into a curse.
so please get over with the obsession.

thanx

Agreed.We've fought enough.It's time for Pakistan and India to reconcile and If India is sincere in friendship then Pakistan should drop Kashmir Issue altogether.

 

[asq]

siri did not ask any question at all i just posted my views on the current situation in south asia you might not agree with me and i respect your opinion i that way but why attack my nationality and bring a whole different issue of chechen and UN into this that was the whole point.

i am not threatening anybody neither am i the sort to post a fiery statement to offend members the whole point is that if you yourself are strong enough nobody even dare to interfere thats what i meant when i posted the indians and pakistanis to get over the kashmir fixation and aim at strengthening at the root of the system.

thanx

And all I am saying is that enough is enough, stop killing innocents in Kashmir show us that India means peace by removing 500,000 soldiers from Kashmir and than let the Kashmiri people decide for themselves under U.N. supervision, neither Pakistan nor India should interfere, is it too much to ask from the biggest Democracy of the world.

This would be a noble thing to do.
Let the kashmiris decide. freely.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Again u play dumb, let me open you brain, we have got the facts and we will prosecute, now you should prosecute any thing that we give you the facts of and in Kashmir you have been committing atrocities and we want an international body to investigate, u have no objection on that do you.

you guys asked about Bombay attacks and we comply, now we ask you about Kashmir and i hope being such a clever people that u r you will allow amnesty.

Some coherence in ur thoughts and ability to stick to topic will be useful for dialoge here. Thanks.

 

[notsuperstitious]

And all I am saying is that enough is enough, stop killing innocents in Kashmir show us that India means peace by removing 500,000 soldiers from Kashmir and than let the Kashmiri people decide for themselves under U.N. supervision, neither Pakistan nor India should interfere, is it too much to ask from the biggest Democracy of the world.

This would be a noble thing to do.
Let the kashmiris decide. freely.

We'll decide what noble things to do, thanks.

 

[roadrunner]

Presumably if part of it was planned in Pakistan, the other half would have been planned in India?