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No, let it be brah. My reply was also light heated, not serious.
Pakistan can never rise. Its society is torn apart, divided. Pakistanis sell each other out in an instant.Pakistan has the 6th largest population in the world (and set to increase further), if Pakistan became an industrialized country it would be one of the most powerful countries on Earth.
China is still in the developing phase as well, when we become a developed country that will be an incredible day indeed.
Hmm, I thought people would research Germany problem, but guess not. So here's my fuller take in you will.
Prussia at the time didn't have many allies in the German areas. Austria was the undisputed king of the area, they were the official emperor a few decades ago and still the president of the German federation, or something, a German union of sorts, very weak of course, more in name that in actuality. German is the land of a thousand princes after all.
1) Diplomacy
Today Pakistan has some good relationships with middle eastern and African Muslim states, but by no means great. As to info and Malaysia, they can be more allies than in the same organization, it depends on what the situation is then.
The structure Pakistan should look to is the existent of said Muslim countries, like SA, Iraq, Afgan, Egypt and so on, but with a combined army, more centralized than NATO, but not yet one that is like one nation.
With a parliament system that Pakistan has strong influence, and decisive decision making process in ONLY SOMETHINGS like Foreign relations, economy, and such that would impact the strength and direction of a union. The culture or living style and such as well as law can be left to their own devices.
Pakistan cannot get the union with economy, that's not possible, no nation looks at a better one and say let me join, war is needed, a decisive, but a limited war. Bismark is all about not going too far, he didn't take Vienna of Austria he wanted them as his ally. Pakistan must win, but can't take any land.
Lastly this Napoleon quote that Pakistan must remember, and why this is such a risk. Pakistan cannot have a hiccup, even once, during this.
"Among the anciently established sovereigns, war aims never go beyond possession of a province or a fortress. With me, the stake is always my existence and that of the whole Empire."
and this
"My power depends on my glory," Bonaparte said, "and my glory on my victories."
2) Economy
Now let's take a look on what Pakistan must do, corruption is ok as long as it doesn't stand in the way. Right now it sort of does, but it doesn't have to. Pakistan must take advantage of China's reorganization of the economy and become industrialized, not only for taking some factories, but also shipping goods into China for the the demand.
Invest in infrastructure, education and research. This must be key for the creation of wealth and new systems.
3) Militarily, Pakistan must increase budget as the country grows, and invest in key parts, like a strong air force, a capable and highly mobile army, and a anti access navy.
This is achievable for Pakistan by investing in 4th to 4+ fighters to be made at home, helicopters either from America or from China, transport planes for the army, and a proven future soldier program to increase the survivability and offensive capability of said soldier. Offensive attack helicopters, is also key. But the key thing is mobile, to be able to strike and get out, to strike where least expected and to have the maxium amount of troops in one area to counter the Indian numerical advantage.
Like Von Meltke's thinking, rails, and roads, except now it's planes and helicopters, don't need to have the most overall, but I will always have the most in one battlefield. Example, If India uses 300,000 and Pakistan 150,000, just make sure to have the most man on one battle field, 300,000 men would be spread out, so where India has 20,000 of the 300, attack there wtih 40,000, then get out and attack another vulnerable spot when India reinforces. Play by your own pace.
Naval arm is a little hard as that's very costly, but Pakistan can have denial of access strategy, anti ship, sea mines, and a DF-21D equivalent, as well as submarines and anti air destroyers and anti sub frigates.
So key to this strategy, take Indian navy out of the fight, be mobile attack weak spots in the Indian line, air force be strong enough to take Indian force 1:1, this is the way to victory. Why air battle 1:1? Even major nations have trouble mantaining a large fleet, as long as Pakistan more or less achieve indignation of the air force fighters, it's a lot easier to achieve parity here. JF-17 very good start.
@SouthDesi @That Guy @Chinese-Dragon @KingMamba @jarves @scorpionx
You cannot solve Kashmir issue(unless Pakistan decides to compromise) regardless of how much influence you have.In 60's and 70's Pakistan had the support of America and was getiing millions of dollars and top quality weapons then also you were to gain IOK so why do you think you will be able to do with a organisation which is not going to be formed in the first place.then it can turn to solving the kashmir dispute with said new found influence.
Actually he is right,Saudi Arabia has influence on Pakistan and not the other way around.Withdrawal of Pakistan from IP pipeline and Saudi Arabia signing defence cooperation with India itself speaks about it.Said ww3.
@Genesis
Do you know what is one the major cause of all the problems in the so called 'muslim world' ?
Each 'muslim' country looks towards the west or some neighboring power to bail it out of trouble rather than its brotherly muslim country
With this mentality you can't form a unified muslim bloc
Actually he is right,Saudi Arabia has influence on Pakistan and not the other way around.Withdrawal of Pakistan from IP pipeline and Saudi Arabia signing defence cooperation with India itself speaks about it.
You cannot solve Kashmir issue(unless Pakistan decides to compromise) regardless of how much influence you have.In 60's and 70's Pakistan had the support of America and was getiing millions of dollars and top quality weapons then also you were to gain IOK so why do you think you will be able to do with a organisation which is not going to be formed in the first place.
What Genesis is saying not something impossible but it literally requires a massive sacrifice of blood, sweat, tears and a major change in mentality.
Plus it is going to face a huge resistance from the western powers
Now wonder it serves western powers interests to see the 'Muslim world' in a cesspool ruled by pro western puppets
What do you mean by that??It is not Pakistan who does not want to compromise
What do you mean by that??
This is totally false but i dont want to derail the thread.Lets leave it here.Most Pakistani leaders do not even talk about all of kashmir going to Pakistan anymore but whenever they bring up Kashmir in talks to figure something out Indians do not want to talk at all so that is why there is a deadlock.