Pak still smarting under 1971 defeat, stoking trouble at border: BSF DG

[The Diplomat]

What can i say , you guys made a joke . Even when the entire world says you lost the wars you claim you won

Check this... This is what the whole world thinks.

 

[Zen0]

Muhammad bin qasim wasn't 17 when he conquered India.

Who ? Lol i had to Google to find out who he Ws , he barely even touched present day India

Everything else is nonsense off topic

 

[Trango Towers]

Good finally some intelligence

1. Nope, apart from west India mughal ruled India for only 250 years
2. They were indian Muslim empire , they ruled Pakistan , not the other way around.
3. Lol indian hindu kings ruled over Pakistan since 200bce

Ok and that's why you are Indian and stupid.
No wonder you still poop outside

Who ? Lol i had to Google to find out who he Ws , he barely even touched present day India

Everything else is nonsense off topic

Looppool oh you stupid Indian

 

[Jackdaws]

If you gave it away then you were foolish. Do you even read what you type?

Ha. So much for knowledge of history.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Who ? Lol i had to Google to find out who he Ws , he barely even touched present day India

Everything else is nonsense off topic

That was known as India at that time you douche

According to that logic Muhammad Bin Qasim conquered Pakistan

 

[Trango Towers]

That was known as India at that time you douche

According to that logic Muhammad Bin Qasim conquered Pakistan

You upgraded him

 

[Muhammad Omar]

@waz @Jango sir please ban that idiot zen0 from this thread

 

[Zen0]

It's about time I get rid of your delusion... Since you posted a few picture... it's my time.

Lol nearly every international media says India won , all you have is $hitty out of context clippings & pak papers

BBC a neutral source contacted 3 foreign analysts who vouched that India had the clear upper hand
Newyork times

BBC

end of the war, this is what India said the tally looked like:

• India won 1,920 sqkm of territory; Pakistan won 540 sqkm
• 2,862 Indian soldiers were killed; Pakistan lost 5,800 soldiers
• India lost 97 tanks; 450 Pakistani tanks were destroyed or captured

least three independent authors believed India had an upper hand in the war:

• Retired American diplomat Dennis Kux: "Although both sides lost heavily in men and material, and neither gained a decisive military advantage, India had the better of the war. Delhi achieved its basic goal of thwarting Pakistan's attempt to seize Kashmir by force. Pakistan gained nothing from a conflict which it had instigated."
• English historian John Keay: "The war lasted barely a month. Pakistan made gains in the Rajasthan desert but its main push against India's Jammu-Srinagar road link was repulsed and Indian tanks advanced to within a sight of Lahore. Both sides claimed victory but India had most to celebrate."
• American author Stanley Wolpert: "The war ended in what appeared to be a draw when the embargo placed by Washington on US ammunition and replacements for both armies forced cessation of conflict before either side won a clear victory. India, however, was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan's capital of the Punjab when the ceasefire was called, and controlled Kashmir's strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to [Pakistani president] Ayub's chagrin."

 

[undercover JIX]

we all saw BSF performance during their recent misadventures and then ran away from posts and started crying, same DG was crying. now he came back to prove his bhagti, modi ki jai ho.

 

[The Diplomat]

Lol nearly every international media says India won , all you have is $hitty out of context clippings & pak papers

BBC a neutral source contacted 3 foreign analysts who vouched that India had the clear upper hand
Newyork times

BBC

end of the war, this is what India said the tally looked like:

• India won 1,920 sqkm of territory; Pakistan won 540 sqkm
• 2,862 Indian soldiers were killed; Pakistan lost 5,800 soldiers
• India lost 97 tanks; 450 Pakistani tanks were destroyed or captured

least three independent authors believed India had an upper hand in the war:

• Retired American diplomat Dennis Kux: "Although both sides lost heavily in men and material, and neither gained a decisive military advantage, India had the better of the war. Delhi achieved its basic goal of thwarting Pakistan's attempt to seize Kashmir by force. Pakistan gained nothing from a conflict which it had instigated."
• English historian John Keay: "The war lasted barely a month. Pakistan made gains in the Rajasthan desert but its main push against India's Jammu-Srinagar road link was repulsed and Indian tanks advanced to within a sight of Lahore. Both sides claimed victory but India had most to celebrate."
• American author Stanley Wolpert: "The war ended in what appeared to be a draw when the embargo placed by Washington on US ammunition and replacements for both armies forced cessation of conflict before either side won a clear victory. India, however, was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan's capital of the Punjab when the ceasefire was called, and controlled Kashmir's strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to [Pakistani president] Ayub's chagrin."

You say everyone but fail to back yourself up. Funny.

 

[Riz]

New Delhi, Apr 3 (PTI) Pakistan is still "smarting under" the 1971 defeat at the hands of India and the BSF is prepared both "defensively and offensively" to deal with infiltration and unprovoked firing incidents on the border, the forces chief said.

Border Security Force Director General (DG) K K Sharma said in an interview to PTI that despite the border guarding force wreaking "more than double" the quantum of losses across the India-Pakistan International Border (IB) in Jammu sector, such incidents, which claim lives of civilians, soldiers and destroy property, have not abated.

"I cannot say how and when the activity of unprovoked firings and ceasefire violations (from across the border) will start but we are prepared to face any eventuality.

"If it is a major offensive, we are more than prepared and we are prepared defensively and we are prepared offensively," the BSF chief said.

Sharma said, "I would like to make one thing clear that we never initiate such violations and it is the other side which starts as a result of which we have to retaliate and react.".

The BSF DG said the sole aim of these unprovoked firing incidents on the border is to "push" in militants into India.

While India wants to maintain peace and does not want to create any problems on the border, it is their (Pakistans) state policy to "destabilise our country", the 1982-batch IPS officer of the Rajasthan cadre said.

"They (Pakistan) are still smarting under the defeat of 1971 which led to the creation of Bangladesh and the ISI (Pakistan intelligence agency) was created with the sole objective of dividing India.

"Their first attempt was in Khalistan and they failed. Now, they are trying it in Kashmir and they will fail," Sharma said.

The BSF had launched three special operations Rustam (2016), Arjun (2017) and Bheem this year, as part of its muh-tod jawab (befitting reply) strategy on the border and to mount at least "three to four times" extra shelling on the Pakistani side and cause heavy damage to men and assets across the border.

According to data of the central security agencies, the BSF retaliation, during the operation Bheem launched between January 3-24, claimed the lives of eight-ten Pakistan Rangers personnel, injured about 15-16 while about 24 civilians were killed and 65 others injured.

In comparison, three BSF personnel were killed, 17 were injured while eight civilians died and 55 were injured during the same time period due to unprovoked firing and shelling by the Pakistan side.

"But, when we react, we do that in a very befitting manner and we give them a very solid reply because since my taking over (in February, 2016) three major engagements have taken place with Pakistan.

"In all the three, we have come on top as there has been more damage in terms of men, material (on the other side). So, consequently the other side should abstain and restrain from any such activity in future but unfortunately it is their state policy to keep the issue of Jammu and Kashmir alive," Sharma said.

"They (militants or terrorists) are coming from the Line of Control in the last years and there has not been any infiltration from the IB side. But, they keep on trying on the IB side also," he said. PTI NES SC SC


https://www.indiatoday.in/pti-feed/...g-trouble-at-border-bsf-dg-1203693-2018-04-03

What a shameful and disgusting statement by a coward nation border security forces DG, ISI was created to divide india.. and what was the purpose of creating RAW? it was india who started first and trained mukti bani terrorists, now you expecting flowers in return now?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Took or Given. We both know the answer.

So for over a 1500 years, whenever india was invaded and conquered by foreign powers it was always a misunderstood situation. It was simply india giving away land to foreigners........ .

 

[Zen0]

That was known as India at that time you douche

Go get psychiatric help , hindu kings ruled even Afghanistan does that make Afghanistan present day India? By 700 a.d north west India were just shattered empires

According to that logic Muhammad Bin Qasim conquered Pakistan

Yup, the people who got invaded by foreign kings were your ancestors, not mine.

You say everyone but fail to back yourself up. Funny.

yup India controls BBC , New York Times ,wjs & all neutral reporters .lol

 

[sachin10]

1948: we took 1/3 of Kashmir.
1965: Sucessfully rebelled an attack which we weren’t prepared for.
1999: Read up about point 5353.

Go do research before commenting.

And you should throw away your "RESEARCH" in Dust Bin..

 

[Jackdaws]

So for over a 1500 years, whenever india was invaded and conquered by foreign powers it was always a misunderstood situation. It was simply india giving away land to foreigners........ .

Haha - no, that was a military conquest. Not a political settlement. Do Pakistani text-books teach that Pakistan was militarily conquered? By whom?