Pak should open corridors for militants to "liberate" Kashmir

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Agonistic Muslim, there is simply no way a scientist would have been able to do quarter as much as he did without government support. Please dont kid yourself saying that this is just a lone individuals work. AQ Khan was made a scapegoat when he should be considered a hero for Pakistan.

Perhaps, but until you can actually substantiate that claim with some sort of evidence, it is nothing but opinion. It is a very simplistic analysis as well, completely ignoring the security clearances, authority and independence that AQ Khan had, or what motivations Pakistan had, or advantages it could have gained, from selling nuclear tech to Iran, NK, and Libya.

The Americans pointed out AQ Khan as the head of the "proliferation ring", no one else. The pakistani government investigated the whole episode and the guy confessed that he did it without state approval. What investigation and evidence can you point to that can counter that of the pakistani government, and more importantly, counter the confession of the accused? From an Indian perspective it might be better to think that the Pakistan establishment was in on it, but conjecture and circumstantial arguments do not prove guilt.

 

[Contrarian]

Yes ofcourse he 'confessed' and then OFCOURSE Musharraf 'forgave' him. Please, Pakistan gained hell of a lot from selling nuke tech, from missiles to hard foreign currency. You dont need to justify in front or prove me wrong. JUst think about it logically yourself.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The case of Iran especially does not make sense. Considering the extremely close relationship between the Saudis and Pakistan, the fact that they provide oil supplies and credit lines several times, the close military cooperation; it seems incredible that we would provide nuclear weapons technology to their biggest rival in the region and jeopardize that relationship.

With NK I have made the argument that there was no point in the Govt. taking a huge chance with selling them Nuclear tech. for a missile, when there was a more advanced one being developed locally, albeit by a different organization than AQ's.

The GoP may have looked the other way when it came to proliferation of Nuclear Tech, INTO Pakistan, but there is absolutely no advantage I can see as to why they would sell to the coutries I mentioned.

 

[Contrarian]

Mate whether or not there was a more advanced missile being developed is subject to speculation. Im sure there was a missile being developed, but whether GoP at that time thought it was progressing fast enough or whether it had the required parameters or many other things, is subject to speculation. GoP might just have decided to get those missiles. And in anycase, the fact that NoDong missiles were bought is very well known. No point denying that.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yes ofcourse he 'confessed' and then OFCOURSE Musharraf 'forgave' him. Please, Pakistan gained hell of a lot from selling nuke tech, from missiles to hard foreign currency. You dont need to justify in front or prove me wrong. JUst think about it logically yourself.

Yes "hard foreign currency" into AQ Khans bank account. I still see no evidence from you to back up your claims.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Mate whether or not there was a more advanced missile being developed is subject to speculation. Im sure there was a missile being developed, but whether GoP at that time thought it was progressing fast enough or whether it had the required parameters or many other things, is subject to speculation. GoP might just have decided to get those missiles.

The Shaheen was being developed and was tested just a year after the first Ghauri test. There is no "speculation" about that. It seems unbelievable that the Shaheen program was considered "not progressing fast enough" when they tested it just a year afterwards.

And in anycase, the fact that NoDong missiles were bought is very well known. No point denying that.

When did I deny that?

 

[Adux]

Look at the Ghauri and Iranian missile along with North Korean..you have uour answer

 

[Adux]

Yes "hard foreign currency" into AQ Khans bank account. I still see no evidence from you to back up your claims.

Yes, how does that prove anything otherwise

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Look at the Ghauri and Iranian missile along with North Korean..you have uour answer

I am not denying that Ghari may be a Nodong knockoff, Only stating that from the GoP's prespetctive, it does not make sense taking a chance with selling nuclear tech for an inferior missile system. It may have made sense from AQ Khans POV, since he could show up PAEC/NESCOM (which developed the Shaheen and conducted our nuke tests).

 

[Ababeel]

Pakistan must work for an independent foriegn policy to get rid of almost daily black mails of the USA. Alongwith China, I think Russia can be a better partner as we have many examples e.g. the Pakistan Steel Mills etc.
At last Iran's example is there who are also living in this world proudly and respectfully wit all the embargoes and pressures from US Satan and they are going well in Science, Technology as well as education and economic progress with the friendship of remaining world.
Calls by Sayed Tanveer Hussain are a really good reply to recent calls and announcements by the US candidates against Pakistan and Islam. They must be paid in their own coins.
Though Al Qaida is extremist but what route they are following is the same route US is walking on. Both are using the same currency against each other.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yes, how does that prove anything otherwise

The question is; how can you prove the investigation conducted by the Pakistan govt., and the confession of AQ Khan, wrong? Billions of dollars from the Libyans to the Pakistan Govt.? Perhaps the CIA will release some details of financial transaction? But till then, the case that the Pakistan Govt. was involved is nothing but conjecture.

 

[Adux]

The question is; how can you prove the investigation conducted by the Pakistan govt., and the confession of AQ Khan, wrong? Billions of dollars from the Libyans to the Pakistan Govt.? Perhaps the CIA will release some details of financial transaction? But till then, the case that the Pakistan Govt. was involved is nothing but conjecture.

Yes, How can we prove AQ wrong, When nobody is allowed to interogate him? If Pakistani government is as clean as baby's bottom, why the ruffle to hide him and save him from the paws of the IAEA etc.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yes, How can we prove AQ wrong, When nobody is allowed to interogate him? If Pakistani government is as clean as baby's bottom, why the ruffle to hide him and save him from the paws of the IAEA etc.

He knows too much. Not necessarily about the alleged involvement of the GoP in proliferation, but about the nuclear and missile programs of Pakistan. You have to realize that this guy was probably second to none when it came to having access to Pakistan's strategic programs.

 

[Ababeel]

What A.Q. Khan did was a great effort from releasing the tremendous pressure off Pakistan. Though it was failed due to shorcomings from Iran, Libya and North Korea otherwise it would have changed the face of the earth and a drastic decrease in US hooliganism who has a habbit to fight the weaks and cant stand in front of Russia and China.

 

[Marathaman]

What A.Q. Khan did was a great effort from releasing the tremendous pressure off Pakistan. Though it was failed due to shorcomings from Iran, Libya and North Korea otherwise it would have changed the face of the earth and a drastic decrease in US hooliganism who has a habbit to fight the weaks and cant stand in front of Russia and China.

You think Iran should have nukes?
Seriously?