Pak PM Imran Khan and Subramanian Swamy tussle on twitter

[Balbir]

Fair enough. Where is Dr. Zakir Naik?

You mean like Zakir Naik?

When did Zakir Naik become Modi critic ? Has anyone ever him heard criticising Modi? LOL

Aatish Taseer?

He still travels India without hiccups.

You have been a member for only a few days and yet you know banned ID Nilu Pilu very well. Seems like we have seen you before in another banned ID.

Nilu Pilu was active like yesterday.
Banned ID kya chakar he?

 

[xeuss]

He still travels India without hiccups.

Thank you for confirming that Hindus just lie. Such a depraved society.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Thank you for confirming that Hindus just lie. Such a depraved society.

He is the unofficial spokesman of Modi on PDF, what do you expect?

Moderation team should really rein in these trolls.

 

[xeuss]

@xeuss How's the family doing in India? I am hearing very grave stories from my Indian Muslim friends.

Would you elaborate some of the stories

My family, both immediate and extended, is doing fine.

Most of the violence these days, is limited to the poorer sections of Muslim society. But that is how it starts. They first go after the poor, then it extends to the middle class, and finally the upper class.

Fascism consumes everyone eventually, and I am not blind to the fact that just because my family has not had any repercussions, it does not happen in India. Having said that, we belong to what one would call as upper-middle class in India. But all our Hindu acquaintances and friends, save one or two here and there, have all turned over to the dark side. However, it is a complex relationship. They hate Muslims with a passion, and cheer the killings of Muslims with absolute glee, but have no problem with us or hanging out with us. The commonly used phrase is..."oh...you are not like those other Muslims".

All the stories you have heard, are true. But life goes on. Just like it goes on in Syria or in Palestine. It may be a miserable life, but it goes on.

Our focus right now is to help those who were affected in the Delhi pogrom, to get up on their feet, and those daily wagers that were affected by the lockdown. These were poor people who often lost their only source of income.

You will be happy to know that Muslims have been at the forefront of helping these people that have been affected by the lockdown. Charity is a concept that is rare among Hindu society.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

He was a joke, whose community is now suffering and under attack from the hindutva state he helped protect

He is probably burning in hell[/QUOTE]

@notorious_eagle

As I said, things get change based on your relationship. As I given example of China.

Here is a friend abusing to a Muslim person because he done a great job and served to the other nation.

It will heart to everyone if we will start talking status of minorities in Pakistan.

Only a saint county or PM has rights to advocate about minorities status in other countries. And surely, imran/Pakistan does not come under that category....

 

[ColonelSanders]

I got few things to say here.

1. Modi has never responded to IK's twitter tirade so far and i don't see him doing it in future.

2.Susu(pun) Swamy is a different creature all together and if you gonna charge at him, he will do counter attack that will make your ears bleed.

3. Susu Swamy had been a bete noire of RSS for most part of his life.

Does illiterate Modi even know how to use Twitter?

 

[Clutch]

Yeah your PM will regret why he tweeted that post .lol

Lol.. you don't know Imran Khan... If he is challenged he fights back without giving up... He will crush any coward Hindu extremist like a fly...

 

[SIPRA]

Lol.. you don't know Imran Khan... If he is challenged he fights back without giving up... He will crush any coward Hindu extremist like a fly...

Modi ko tau IK nay waisay he duniya main "Tagha Tokri" ker diya dae.

 

[Cash GK]

Sir, actually if you ask then I m not defending to swamy or any hard core Hindu leaders....

Just we are discussing about imran khan statement on internal matter of India.

If you enforced the law bring Hindus from pak bagaldes n Afghan on the name of religion.. them ik has every right to defend muslim of india

 

[Cash GK]

Muslims (some), also modi baiting Hindus in India have been screaming at the top of their lungs because they can do it here in India, because nobody stifling their voice, nobody taking away their mic and camera when they giving interview to foreign media sitting in their cosy houses in Delhi and Mumbai, nobody sending them to 'camps' for screaming against the govt in columns and public speeches.

Germany ?? Kya baat karte ho ?? Kya baat karte ho ?? Forget Germans of late 1930's, Nazis were killing in people in late 20s. But why go that far into history and far away Germany, I'll give you example of a place closer home, aka Pakistan where half of opposition leaders, media house owners, public intellectuals are either in prison or living in forced exile abroad, while even Modi's most vocal and strident critics enjoying their lives in comfort of home in India.

Chor n corrupts must be in prison.. i hope you live with guswami and the family who benefits in Rafael deal in india. we will love it. If india keep doing this.. it will do pak job easy

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

My family, both immediate and extended, is doing fine.

Most of the violence these days, is limited to the poorer sections of Muslim society. But that is how it starts. They first go after the poor, then it extends to the middle class, and finally the upper class.

Fascism consumes everyone eventually, and I am not blind to the fact that just because my family has not had any repercussions, it does not happen in India. Having said that, we belong to what one would call as upper-middle class in India. But all our Hindu acquaintances and friends, save one or two here and there, have all turned over to the dark side. However, it is a complex relationship. They hate Muslims with a passion, and cheer the killings of Muslims with absolute glee, but have no problem with us or hanging out with us. The commonly used phrase is..."oh...you are not like those other Muslims".

All the stories you have heard, are true. But life goes on. Just like it goes on in Syria or in Palestine. It may be a miserable life, but it goes on.

Our focus right now is to help those who were affected in the Delhi pogrom, to get up on their feet, and those daily wagers that were affected by the lockdown. These were poor people who often lost their only source of income.

You will be happy to know that Muslims have been at the forefront of helping these people that have been affected by the lockdown. Charity is a concept that is rare among Hindu society.

Never though I will ask anyone ( specially Indian Muslim) in PDF.

But as you are saying let me ask...

1. Why are Muslims so much aggressive?

Have you ever noticed, most of the violation starts in India where Muslims are in big majority or numbers?

People blame to RSS, BJP, Hindu for 2002 (Violation). However you forget that it started due to Hindus were burn alive in a train... So, if you are in minority and do such things then the things will get end that way only..( in any country including Pakistan)

Note: I never justified (2002 incidents) including any groups. It was a black day in Indian history as per me.

If Muslims are facing problems in India because of there are many causes : terrorism in India and the world ( I m against to generalized but it is also true that most are Muslims).

Yaar lists will go on.

I have a very close Muslim friend and he told me many things about Muslims community in India. What are being teach in masjid... Etc.... He used to donate money (online) because it was being told in Musjid. Once, he realized that the money might going to wrong hands then he stopped.

Yaar many things I know personally but still I believed in secular India. Just like Muslims, Hindu are not saint people.

Adding dirty politics, nothing to say but finally I would say that it is not a one side fault.

HOPE I WILL NOT GET BAN FOR THIS

 

[Cash GK]

For us and for much of the Free world, Pakistan, it's constitution, its people and it's leaders are the textbook example of racists. The closest nation-state to Nazism with formalized, organized, codified Nazi style policies.

In a clear example of religious discrimination, Articles 41(2) and 91(3) of the Constitution strictly bar non-Muslims from holding the two most influential positions of government in the country, namely that of the head of state and the Prime Minister.

Even the wording for blasphemy laws clearly state where other religions lie in the hierarchy of respect in Pakistani constitution.
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A Pakistani talking or comparing about anyone, even Nazi Germany, is the stuff of ironies, to the extent it's not even funny.

A Pakistan so brutal, so systematically cruel, so bigoted, so born of hatred that hundreds of poor Hindus leave even their meagre belongings and flee the nation to India every year dares to talk about Nazism. A country that has annihilated it's minorities and has systematically targeted them throughout it's entire existence speaks of Nazis. Don't make us laugh.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/world/asia/pakistan-hindu-india-modi.html


For us you are the living embodiment of nazism. Your PM can go and say whatever he likes. Your bloody constitution, those tens of thousands of refugees fleeing Pakistan are proof of what Pakistan is.

We have laws...we always stand with weaks...we dont destroy historical buildings killing cut pregnant women into pieces..your pm was banded to enter in USA for years. He was called as terrorist..we dont kill people if they eat cow mata... man are you idiot. You are defending worng thing..pakistan never claimed secular like india did. pk was created on the name of islam. Those muslims stayed there in india iin 1947 on the name of secular. Get well soon

 

[xeuss]

Never though I will ask anyone ( specially Indian Muslim) in PDF.

But as you are saying let me ask...

1. Why are Muslims so much aggressive?

Have you ever noticed, most of the violation starts in India where Muslims are in big majority or numbers?

People blame to RSS, BJP, Hindu for 2002 (Violation). However you forget that it started due to Hindus were burn alive in a train... So, if you are in minority and do such things then the things will get end that way only..( in any country including Pakistan)

Note: I never justified (2002 incidents) including any groups. It was a black day in Indian history as per me.

If Muslims are facing problems in India because of there are many causes : terrorism in India and the world ( I m against to generalized but it is also true that most are Muslims).

Yaar lists will go on.

I have a very close Muslim friend and he told me many things about Muslims community in India. What are being teach in masjid... Etc.... He used to donate money (online) because it was being told in Musjid. Once, he realized that the money might going to wrong hands then he stopped.

Yaar many things I know personally but still I believed in secular India. Just like Muslims, Hindu are not saint people.

Adding dirty politics, nothing to say but finally I would say that it is not a one side fault.

HOPE I WILL NOT GET BAN FOR THIS

Your questions are based on the same old propaganda that has been so emblematic of Hindu India today. What you are doing is simply regurgitating the same propaganda in a question form.

It is like me questioning, why do Hindu priests rape women? There may be no Hindu priest that rapes a woman, but when I ask a question like this, I am simply promoting a lie by framing it as a question.

If you really wanted an answer to the questions you pose, there is enough material online to peruse through and come up with reasonable, educated answers. There have been many scholarly studies by commissions and institutes in India and around the world that would confirm your thoughts as prejudicial.

However, it is obvious, that you are not seeking answers to your questions, but rather trying to reinforce your prejudices.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

If you enforced the law bring Hindus from pak bagaldes n Afghan on the name of religion.. them ik has every right to defend muslim of india

Of course, why not!
In the same since, we have also rights to talk about minorities status in Pakistan.

 

[xeuss]

For us and for much of the Free world, Pakistan, it's constitution, its people and it's leaders are the textbook example of racists. The closest nation-state to Nazism with formalized, organized, codified Nazi style policies.

In a clear example of religious discrimination, Articles 41(2) and 91(3) of the Constitution strictly bar non-Muslims from holding the two most influential positions of government in the country, namely that of the head of state and the Prime Minister.

Even the wording for blasphemy laws clearly state where other religions lie in the hierarchy of respect in Pakistani constitution.
View attachment 620752
A Pakistani talking or comparing about anyone, even Nazi Germany, is the stuff of ironies, to the extent it's not even funny.

A Pakistan so brutal, so systematically cruel, so bigoted, so born of hatred that hundreds of poor Hindus leave even their meagre belongings and flee the nation to India every year dares to talk about Nazism. A country that has annihilated it's minorities and has systematically targeted them throughout it's entire existence speaks of Nazis. Don't make us laugh.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/world/asia/pakistan-hindu-india-modi.html


For us you are the living embodiment of nazism. Your PM can go and say whatever he likes. Your bloody constitution, those tens of thousands of refugees fleeing Pakistan are proof of what Pakistan is.

I am not going to defend Pakistani laws here, as there will likely be more knowledgeable Pakistani posters that can opine on the subject. However I would like to point out a few things:

1. India itself has its form of blasphemy laws in the form of Section 295 of the Indian Penal Code. If you counter that Pakistani blasphemy laws are exclusively targeting non-Muslims. That may be the case, but the law can be applied against Muslims as well, and I know it has been (I recall reading an article a few years ago). Selective application of such laws are indeed a problem, as they are then merely a tool of oppression, rather than their main objective, that is to maintain societal and communal harmony. Lately, India has been lagging in that regard.

2. Your overall arguments are wrong, as they smack of, "you are worse than us, so don't lecture us". That is really no defense. If that was a fair argument, then a person convicted of a crime could never accuse another person of a crime because of his past history.