Pak Media Discussing Army disadvantages on LOC against India

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

India has serious terrain advantages and Bunkrers which the Pakistanis don't seem to have

ANY THOUGHTS GUYS

not true. in many places we are at advantage. in some places they are. but bunkers on both sides are of same quality. only fence is the difference.

 

[TheEmpire]

Thing thing is, our Indian friends do not take the implications of their own actions to their logical conclusion. Because if they did that, they would understand that every single time things escalate on the LoC to use of artillery, by India's own arguments India becomes more unsafe. Here is how:

1. You accuse us of sending terrorists through infiltration.
2. You escalate to the use of artillery.
3. As is proven by numerous videos posted on this forum, this gives us the chance to concentrate fire in one area and clear it of Indian posts.
4. By your own reasoning, there is now a golden opportunity for terrorists to infiltrate. If I were Indian, I would operate on the principal that every artillery exchange has led to infiltration.

Now there is only one of two mutually exclusive positions that you can take:

a. Pakistan does not send any terrorists to India.
b. After every artillery exchange, India has become more unsafe because infiltration has happened with a high probability.

Looking forward to responses from our Indian friends.

Comon man , whom are you trying to fool. everyone knows that pakistan army is trying to infiltrate terrorists through cross border firing. How else would your insurgency in kashmir will remain alive. Kudos to the Indian Army for killing thousands of terrorists since last decades and establish peace in valley. Seperatists are too old and will die anytime. Unfortunately as your army would like you to believe, on the contrary there arent many who want to be like Burhan Wani. If you follow correct news from likes of Kashmir Times ( which is anti India btw) you would have come to know that school children and their parents showed middle fingers to seperatists call to abondon annual exams and instead exam halls were packed. Kashmiri Muslims have realised that those in Pakistan who ask them to take up guns aganist Indian State will never themselves come out to fight India and they now see a better and a normal future for their children like the rest of Muslims in India do.

We know how you Indians love to box above weight specially when you come in contact with civilisation, but that only proves how desperate you creatures are for space to prove your penny worth, better keep your tripe for the zoo forums where most of you belong. Your prone to suicide warriors have indeed made some notable achievements in Manipure and elsewhere, a fact acknowledged by some ladies holding placards acknowledging the Indian army's adventures and achievements.
As for killing own people, the saying Indians will sell their grandmothers for a few dollars doesn't seems exaggerated considering how your Hanuman army kills for awards and rewards to the extent , it has earned India the distinction of a fake encounter State. So get to know your self before becoming expert on others. Remember you are here to learn.

http://www.thenewsminute.com/articl...t-brutal-bloody-staged-encounters-india-34647

Whatever you have said also applies to your own army actions in Baluchistan and elsewhere. Please dont bring religion and Gods into arguments. We havent said anything bad about your god. What is this about distinction? Who has given us distinction? Since when did a country which only relies on non state actors to hurt enemy became so big to give others distinction?

 

[Windjammer]

hes more qualified to give an opinion on the loc then a fake keyboard gangster who sits over 15,000 miles away in england

Welcome to earth Martian, if you think the distance is 15, 000 miles then no doubt you belong on Mars.
Never knew they have key board gangsters real or fake, must be a thing on Mars.

 

[Windjammer]

Actually we pity you when you cant pay for even 8 fighters and yes its funny that mighty Pakistan not able to pay for 8 fighters and repeatedly getting scolded by amriki masters inspite of doing all the dirty work for them. As per your claims if America supported India in Kargil still why did Pakistan again decided to do the dirty work in Afghanistan and bomb its own citizens. Fast forward... again Amriki masters scolded and refused to gift planes. I mean why do you have to face so much humiliation. Prior to Kargil in 1999, you also did serve amrika in Afghanistan and received 3 million refugees at the height of cold war. Pakistan is never taken seriously.

And regarding Balochistan, we did not try any trick in Balochistani, Inspite of all your RAW and Kulbhushan Yadav claims. Unlike Pakistan, India is practical and we know the ground realities that there is really not much fuel to ignite a freedom movement like in 1971 when 98000 of the mighty Pakistan army surrendered. The same army which refused to take bodies of its soldiers in Kargil and cliamed they were Mujahideens and whose PM later admitted that 4000 pakistani soldiers were killed. And you are still proud of your army? We cant imagine such act of cowardice in our country. In 1962 war when China attacked India when India was not prepared and idiot Nehru was singing songs of peace hindi-chini bhai bhai, 12,000 Indians fought against 80,000 soldiers of your current Master. Against all the odds, 1300 Indians were martyred when 700 Chinese were also killed. Compare it with 97000 soldiers being captured in 1971.

Regarding Balochistan I repeat if there is any freedom movement even remotely close to Kashmir, we will break Pakistan again, the same stands true vis a vis Azad Kashmir. Pakistan is only capable of bombing tribal mujahideens and using terrorist proxies. Serve your new master well. Inspite of the nukes and fancy toys and money your much stronger old but strict ex-master gave you, you failed the Kashmiris. Hopefully new master will not be so strict. Best wishes.

I was waiting to see how long would it take you to run back to 1971 to salvage your tiny ego, this is the last shot of a typical Indian. Firstly you need to educate yourself on the figures, it was a battle PA had to fight a thousand miles from home with a severe handicap, no air support or logistics. Apart from being numerical superior, you still needed support of Muktis to confront a much smaller army, the single PAF unit faced 10 IAF units, yet still managed to give it a bloody nose.
In erstwhile East Pakistan you needed your Jija ji muktis to fight alongside you, in Kargil, your boyfriend Israel and your sugar daddy to save your neck which was choking under Pakistani boots.....but when you had to face it alone, you sat on your sorry a$$ for almost a year and turned tail after losing a thousand men, most of them victims of their own mines, if that wasn't humiliating enough, then 2008 proved that despite being four time larger than PA, your army is nothing but a bunch of cowards who refused to fight. The reality is you people take pride in capturing pigeons and shooting down balloons and creating fancy terminologies to lift your tail, much like when an Ostrich has it's head in the dirt, it's a$$ is in the air.
Read and weep if you have some shame left.

http://wsn.globalo.com/India/siddharth-srivastava/Indian-army-backed-out-of-Pakistan-attack

 

[45'22']

So, India has the advantage as far as terrain and weapons are considered

 

[el che]

I was waiting to see how long would it take you to run back to 1971 to salvage your tiny ego, this is the last shot of a typical Indian. Firstly you need to educate yourself on the figures, it was a battle PA had to fight a thousand miles from home with a severe handicap, no air support or logistics. Apart from being numerical superior, you still needed support of Muktis to confront a much smaller army, the single PAF unit faced 10 IAF units, yet still managed to give it a bloody nose.
In erstwhile East Pakistan you needed your Jija ji muktis to fight alongside you, in Kargil, your boyfriend Israel and your sugar daddy to save your neck which was choking under Pakistani boots.....but when you had to face it alone, you sat on your sorry a$$ for almost a year and turned tail after losing a thousand men, most of them victims of their own mines, if that wasn't humiliating enough, then 2008 proved that despite being four time larger than PA, your army is nothing but a bunch of cowards who refused to fight. The reality is you people take pride in capturing pigeons and shooting down balloons and creating fancy terminologies to lift your tail, much like when an Ostrich has it's head in the dirt, it's a$$b is in the air.
Read and weep if you have same shame left.

http://wsn.globalo.com/India/siddharth-srivastava/Indian-army-backed-out-of-Pakistan-attack

You type too much without making much sense. I referred you when your ex master amrika and Chin didnt support you and your coward army refused to acknowledge the dead bodies and claimed them to be mujahideens. The army which can lie to save its face will never die in battle field. Thats why 98000 surrender. The army which has always used proxies to attack. For Pakistan LeT and JEM are the real heroes who carried out acts like 2008 of which you are so proud of. What was your army's role in 2008? It was carried out by mullahs looking to have *** with 72 virgins. Quite expected from a country which has only faced humiliation either in battlfield, IMF or by their master. The country which always needs a master.

Apart from being the war previous to 1999 , 1971 war context is similar to todays Kashmir with positions interchanged. Still you are totally incompetent to take kashmir which is just beside you. You are happy with giving bloody noses with your dirty games like terrorist attacks or some air craft battle which has become irrelevant. We handle Kashmir, ULFA , manipuri, naga, naxals and previously Khalistan simultaneously. You are no better than that.

Actually pegions you mentioned have more credibility than your army. They are the ones who actually carry out some cowardly attacks. Your army got oppertunity in 1971, 98000 surrendered. Tried some misdventure in 1999 and the army had to lie that the dead are mujahideens. Its always like that. Lies, denial, conspiracy theories and day dreams like gazwa hind for Pakistan. The nations which refuses to grow up.

 

[Samlee]

It's strange that Pakistan show these kind of pessimistic programs on their TV, good to see the same though, as what we see on atleast PDF is fake bravado

What Is Even Stranger Is How Indians Watch Pakistan TV All Day And Cherry Pick Programs Which Suits Their Bravado.Even When The Contents Are Just Individual Opinions You Seem To Be Jumping Over The Moon

Get A Life Indians

 

[Peer Haman Shah]

Pak Army should have own channels as Indian Army used International channels as Discovery and others,Indian always win the war on Media and propaganda.

 

[Samlee]

It's strange that Pakistan show these kind of pessimistic programs on their TV, good to see the same though, as what we see on atleast PDF is fake bravado

Repeated

We just want Pakistan to get lost and stay within its borders and stop all this blackday drama and let peace and trade prevail. Stop barking on Kashmir considering your capabilities militarily and diloplomatically. And let me tell you If ever there is ever any public uprising in Balochistan like we have in Kashmir, we will tear you apart once more.

Wow You Really Are An Uneducated Bhakti .Your Modi Was Hoping So Much For This To Happen But The Day He Gave His Speech

But There Is Something A Lot Similar To Bangladesh Happening Here

Oh And Kid You Are New Here So Watch Your Tongue This Is A Pakistan Forum.Temple Educated Bhaktis Are Not Normally Spared Here

 

[Immanuel]

I was waiting to see how long would it take you to run back to 1971 to salvage your tiny ego, this is the last shot of a typical Indian. Firstly you need to educate yourself on the figures, it was a battle PA had to fight a thousand miles from home with a severe handicap, no air support or logistics. Apart from being numerical superior, you still needed support of Muktis to confront a much smaller army, the single PAF unit faced 10 IAF units, yet still managed to give it a bloody nose.
In erstwhile East Pakistan you needed your Jija ji muktis to fight alongside you, in Kargil, your boyfriend Israel and your sugar daddy to save your neck which was choking under Pakistani boots.....but when you had to face it alone, you sat on your sorry a$$ for almost a year and turned tail after losing a thousand men, most of them victims of their own mines, if that wasn't humiliating enough, then 2008 proved that despite being four time larger than PA, your army is nothing but a bunch of cowards who refused to fight. The reality is you people take pride in capturing pigeons and shooting down balloons and creating fancy terminologies to lift your tail, much like when an Ostrich has it's head in the dirt, it's a$$ is in the air.
Read and weep if you have some shame left.

http://wsn.globalo.com/India/siddharth-srivastava/Indian-army-backed-out-of-Pakistan-attack

1971, why go back so long when I can go back 48 hrs ago when your DGMO begged us to stop the heat on LOC, your shameless folks were crying like little girls at the UN. It's funny every loss, the Pakis are very good in coming up with excuses on why they lost. They talk about how France, Israel and other helps us in Kargil but claim China will always come for their help only to be left all by themselves.

The above article claims indeed that we didn't have enough ammo and war wastage reserves to fight a respectable war, it's called planning and picking your timing. So that, we don't have to make excuses like your people when things go wrong. These days, no such issues.

At least even in our very limited failures, we have guts to admit our mistakes and learn from them. While your people are still busy making excuses to why they lost in all the wars.

 

[Morse_Code]

Read the title and only thing that came to my mind was "Sun Tzu's art of war"...

yes! “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

 

[Windjammer]

You type too much without making much sense. I referred you when your ex master amrika and Chin didnt support you and your coward army refused to acknowledge the dead bodies and claimed them to be mujahideens. The army which can lie to save its face will never die in battle field. Thats why 98000 surrender. The army which has always used proxies to attack. For Pakistan LeT and JEM are the real heroes who carried out acts like 2008 of which you are so proud of. What was your army's role in 2008? It was carried out by mullahs looking to have *** with 72 virgins. Quite expected from a country which has only faced humiliation either in battlfield, IMF or by their master. The country which always needs a master.

Apart from being the war previous to 1999 , 1971 war context is similar to todays Kashmir with positions interchanged. Still you are totally incompetent to take kashmir which is just beside you. You are happy with giving bloody noses with your dirty games like terrorist attacks or some air craft battle which has become irrelevant. We handle Kashmir, ULFA , manipuri, naga, naxals and previously Khalistan simultaneously. You are no better than that.

Actually pegions you mentioned have more credibility than your army. They are the ones who actually carry out some cowardly attacks. Your army got oppertunity in 1971, 98000 surrendered. Tried some misdventure in 1999 and the army had to lie that the dead are mujahideens. Its always like that. Lies, denial, conspiracy theories and day dreams like gazwa hind for Pakistan. The nations which refuses to grow up.

As i said, you are desperate to save your tiny ego with moronic figures, just harping same lies may prove your Indian credentials but it doesn't make it the truth.... there were merely 30,000 odd soldiers in the figure you keep repeating.
You introduced terrorism in this part of the world through Muktis so it's appropriate that you taste your own medicine regularly.....and before pressing the reply button, utilise your brain cell to read the link, where your coward million man army backed out of attacking Pakistan... and since you keep mouthing off about Kargil, forget the dead, you jokers weren't even ready to accept your alive ones in front of the media who eventually had to be handed over to Red cross,... what to say of the Indian circus clowns who after miserably failing to provide an iota of evidence for the so called surgical strikes have eventually confined it all to Hanuman.... and do check, how thousands of your Pigeon catchers surrendered in the Western theatre where PA had more favourable conditions not to mention that the Agni Pankh also has the crown of being the only air force to air surrender an aircraft in modern warfare.

 

[Samlee]

You type too much without making much sense. I referred you when your ex master amrika and Chin didnt support you and your coward army refused to acknowledge the dead bodies and claimed them to be mujahideens. The army which can lie to save its face will never die in battle field. Thats why 98000 surrender. The army which has always used proxies to attack. For Pakistan LeT and JEM are the real heroes who carried out acts like 2008 of which you are so proud of. What was your army's role in 2008? It was carried out by mullahs looking to have *** with 72 virgins. Quite expected from a country which has only faced humiliation either in battlfield, IMF or by their master. The country which always needs a master.

You Are A Really Funny Guy Accusing Someone Of Typing Without Sense.'army which has always used proxies to attack'
This Is Coming From Country Which Pioneered Proxies Like Mukti Bahini Tamil Tigers BLA Pakhtun Zalme.Wah You Really Are .So Stop Whining Like A Little Baby For LeJ And LeT.

Your Soldiers Have Been Killed At Wholesale Level On LoC And Your Army Is Too Spineless To Admit It.So Stop Barking About 1999

"The country which always needs a master."

Throughout The Cold War You Were Russia's *** Slave And Now You Are Running To Becoming USA Mistress

 

[Daghalodi]

OH MY GOD ...we are doomed now....supa powa has got us

 

[Windjammer]

1971, why go back so long when I can go back 48 hrs ago when your DGMO begged us to stop the heat on LOC, your shameless folks were crying like little girls at the UN. It's funny every loss, the Pakis are very good in coming up with excuses on why they lost. They talk about how France, Israel and other helps us in Kargil but claim China will always come for their help only to be left all by themselves.

The above article claims indeed that we didn't have enough ammo and war wastage reserves to fight a respectable war, it's called planning and picking your timing. So that, we don't have to make excuses like your people when things go wrong. These days, no such issues.

At least even in our very limited failures, we have guts to admit our mistakes and learn from them. While your people are still busy making excuses to why they lost in all the wars.

Listen Dot head, we always fought our wars on our own strength, the likes of Israelis can take pride for fighting and defeating bigger nations but you the supa powa even had to run to a ,minute state for security. If you must then compare our situation to when you got humiliated in Sri Lanka....even with all the air support at your disposal.