Pak livid over UN group's report on 'enforced disappearances' in country

[KRAIT]

Sure, lets hope everyone else is just dumb to take it in a different setting. Plus, i like the naked version, no BS , no diplomacy.

So do I.
Actually the basic points are same, difference is the perception.

Anyways, You don't like RAW and their working same way we don't like ISI and their working.

In practical world, both RAW and ISI are doing are working for their national interests. India wants to use the BLA to engage Pakistan in their home itself and as soon as NATO leaves, PA will launch massive operation against all anti-Pakistani elements.

The barbaric nature of this conflict is that, one wants to kill other nation's citizen to save their own.
If the perceived (actualy say it confirmed) enemy is engaged in its home, the nation behind the instability of its enemy can stabilize itself.

But are these terrorists too trained that they made so many people disappeared ? Is it ISI failure or what ?

 

[American Pakistani]

One quick question,

Do you support what ISI and other agencies are doing in Baluchistan if these disappearance are true ? It will clear so many doubts.

Which theory or report says ISI is disappearing peoples? It could be BLA terrorists. BLA terrorists kills everyone who their sardar wishes.

 

[Kompromat]

Unless you show me BLA as a UNSC designated terrorist agency, you are just ranting.. And if I am not wrong, isnt Musharraf being tried for murder for killing one of the senior BLA leaders.. If BLA is a terror outfit, then why is the ex president of Pakistan being tried for killing one of their leaders??

And about the rest, well, Maoists are not terrorists and you can look up the status of your other favorite groups in the terrorist list of UNSC

Akbar Bugti was not the leader of BLA but Jamhuri watan party

So do I.
Actually the basic points are same, difference is the perception.

Anyways, You don't like RAW and their working same way we don't like ISI and their working.

In practical world, both RAW and ISI are doing are working for their national interests. India wants to use the BLA to engage Pakistan in their home itself and as soon as NATO leaves, PA will launch massive operation against all anti-Pakistani elements.

The barbaric nature of this conflict is that, one wants to kill other nation's citizen to save their own.
If the perceived (actualy say it confirmed) enemy is engaged in its home, the nation behind the instability of its enemy can stabilize itself.

But are these terrorists too trained that they made so many people disappeared ? Is it ISI failure or what ?

Intel agencies ain't flawless and yes there is a strong evidence that, most of the people [Military age men] on the disappeared list are actually in Afghanistan either getting training or hiding from..........

 

[Supply&Demand]

ajtr ..........



Akbar Bugti's most famous quote is this.

"There is nothing more, comforting than shooting your enemies, dragging their bodies behind your SVU and bedding their women afterwards."

Just like Ben Guiron's quote on Pakistan...

and Indira Gandhi's quote on Pakistan after 1971 war...

none of them exist in real world except of course in Pakistani propaganda news

 

[ajtr]

Unless you show me BLA as a UNSC designated terrorist agency, you are just ranting.. And if I am not wrong, isnt Musharraf being tried for murder for killing one of the senior BLA leaders.. If BLA is a terror outfit, then why is the ex president of Pakistan being tried for killing one of their leaders??

BLA is terrorist. period. along with it RAW is terror supporting organisation. UNSC itself is biggest farce where 5 members decide about 172 others.

He, was officially hated by KGB.

Its so obvious with USSR's failure in Afganistan.

 

[Kompromat]

"Jinnah was the only man i bowed to in my entire life" Akbar Bugti

Akbar Bugti & Bhutto sharing a cuban.

* Lately, he stopped receiving his kickback from the Gas revenue & therefore -------

Bugti had a network of private jails to "treat" tribesmen who opposed him.

 

[KRAIT]

Which theory or report says ISI is disappearing peoples? It could be BLA terrorists. BLA terrorists kills everyone who their sardar wishes.

So if RAW is behind it, where is the theory or report, I mean why haven't you used it to bring focus on India on world's stage ? If Pakistan proves it then they can really get support from many nations.

Another question is that are Balochistan people oppressed/faced discrimination or not ?

If they are oppressed for decades, then wouldn't it be possible that most of the terrorists are the people who stood against it and really want some freedom or more development even if they have to take it by violence. BLA said they will take help from devil himself for their cause, so taking help from India is not a big deal. India is being opportunistic in this case.

And if the answer is that they are not oppressed and have no qualms about anything, then we can put entire blame on India. But again, govt. failure if they have proofs but not cashing it. I mean these proofs and showing it to the world will make them every one's favorite and may result in getting re-elected.

@AJTR- BLA is terrorist. Period. Sorry madam, you can't make this statement.

 

[ajtr]

That was I expecting. You have given me a reply that I will use against AJTR or other posters every time when they questions what IA do.

Thanks a lot buddy.

Really.Tell me how many people indian forces wrongly arrests under darconian acts like TADA/POTA and in the end unable to present evidence in courts then isnt it obvious that case ill fall flat on its face when the person you arrest is itself innocent from the beginning.It took european union commission judicial commission to get justice delivered to Dr. sen whom indians sent to jail for life accusing him of helping maoists.And there are thouands of cases where innocents were let off by courts and then there are cases of forces officers were sent to jail for fake killings.The difference in PA /IA is that PA kill terrorists and IA does fake encounters of innocents.

 

[Kompromat]

Really.Tell me how many people indian forces wrongly arrests under darconian acts like TADA/POTA and in the end unable to present evidence in courts then isnt it obvious that case ill fall flat on its face when the person you arrest is itself innocent from the beginning.It took european union commission judicial commission to get justice delivered to Dr. sen whom indians sent to jail for life accusing him of helping maoists.And there are thouands of cases where innocents were let off by courts and then there are cases of forces officers were sent to jail for fake killings.The difference in PA /IA is that PA kill terrorists and IA does fake encounters of innocents.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Must read.

 

[ajtr]

@AJTR- BLA is terrorist. Period. Sorry madam, you can't make this statement.

I can make this statement but you cant make similar statement with anyone who is fighting in india.

 

[American Pakistani]

"Jinnah was the only man i bowed to in my entire life" Akbar Bugti

Akbar Bugti & Bhutto sharing a cuban.

* Lately, he stopped receiving his kickback from the Gas revenue & therefore -------

Bugti had a network of private jails to "treat" tribesmen who opposed him.

We all know how they treat Kalpar Balochs.

 

[Kompromat]

I can make this statement but you cant make similar statement with anyone who is fighting in india.

Off topic: Are you in Pakistan by any chance

 

[EzioAltaïr]

I can make this statement but you cant make similar statement with anyone who is fighting in india.

Double standards much?

 

[ajtr]

Double standards much?

Nope double standard.its only that those who has to be blamed as terrorists in india are hailed as heros.yes the indian forces who does the fake encounters etc are real terrorists who terrorize indians.

Off topic: Are you in Pakistan by any chance

my thoughts doesnt changes by my hoping across both side of wagha.

 

[KRAIT]

@Aeronaut.
Someone is dragging India and its issues in this Pakistan related threads. Looking forward to deletion of her posts.

I didn't do anything.