Pak lacks will to fight terror: Pranab

[notsuperstitious]

This is how non pakistanis view it -

What was the experience of the first two deals done with taliban in 2005 and 2006? Talibs only used the freedom to spread their influence. The link the talibs had with the lal masjid episode is proof of their agenda, they'll keep spreading if u tolerate them.

Yet another deal is now done with the same people, when u give in to arm twisting, the arm twister becomes stronger, not weaker.

May be the outsiders fail to understand how the pakistani govt thinks, may be thats why the suspicion. but if they care what outsiders think, then they can take them in confidence and share their thinking. has that happened? we don't know.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

So the Quetta Shura wants to do Jihad, ISI believes that they have right to want to do Jihad, and they are in fact doing Jihad. That much is clear.

The only legalistic doubt is whether ISI believes not only in their right to want to do Jihad, but also in their right to actually do Jihad. But that is a moot point since Jihad is happening anyway.

But leaving aside the legalistic hair-splitting, there is plenty of reason to doubt Pakistani sincerity with respect to the Taliban, or at least with respect to some factions of the Taliban, which was the point Solomon2 was making.

Articulating an opinion about a general policy the GoP/PA may have with respect to the Taliban and Afghanistan is different from the very specific accusations directed at Gen. Kiyani and Gen. Pasha by you and Solomon.

Had this discussion focused on a more general principle as outlined, I would consider it a legitimate issue to debate, and it has been debated frequently in the past.

However, when specific accusations without any credible evidence are leveled at the Pakistani military leadership to bolster a particular viewpoint, then that becomes slander, misleading and unacceptable.

On the Quetta Shura - It is not clear that the Quetta Shura is 'doing' Jihad - The Quetta Shura does not figure in the list of any of the insurgent leaders actually leading or training men from what I know.

They are largely a symbolic and ideological leadership - if they are actively training and fighting, then they are not in Quetta.