Pak-India tensions seen dominating Indian BRICS summit

[kabooter_maila]

I am not an indian but from an Afghan perspective what is important is that China uses whatever leverage it has on Pakistan that it changes her policies vis-a-vis Afghanistan [ which means stop supporting Afghan Taliban and other militant groups] and we see CPEC where China will invest massively as increase that leverage that China will carry with Pakistan.

We in Afghanistan see CPEC is a good omen for the region and we would like to be part of it and we fully support Chinese OBAR vision but you do realize that unless Pakistan changes her policies vis-a-vis militants which wreck havoc in Afghanistan this region will be distalized, Chinese border regions will be destabilized.

Let me say something up front. Pakistan is not going to kill Afghan Taliban for the sake of it or for the sake of Americans, Indians, or even Afghan government. It's not our policy to kill Muslims. We helped Afghan people in the past beyond our capacity to protect their freedom and dignity. Brave Afghan people sacrificed massively but were able to push the invaders out of their borders. Unfortunately, but not unexpectedly, Afghanistan is still in turmoil. And Afghan rulers keep venting their anger and desperation against Pakistan from time to time. What Afghan government needs to do is genuinely initiate an intra-Afghan reconciliation process and steadfastly follow the course. At least two Afghan generations were raised under the gun barrels. How can you expect of them to throw their guns and start following the red lights on roads in Kabul without any effort on the part of those who have the power, understanding, awareness, and vision. Unfortunately current Afghan rulers lack these latter three qualities. They desperately want Pakistan to cut it short for them by killing Afghan Taliban. We are sorry. We cannot simply do that. Afghans need to sit down and sort out their issues peacefully without any external influence, especially from the enemies of Islam (read Hindus and the people of the Book). How many more Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan need to be sacrificed before our leaders would understand the enemy's evil game? I am sure you don't know. But in the meantime, the work on CPEC will continue in full swing. I agree with Afghan ambassador in Pakistan that CPEC is as much relative/beneficial to the region (Afghanistan and Central Asia) as to Pakistan. Once there is peace in Afghanistan, Afghans are welcome to benefit from it. But don't try acting as minion for Indians. It's against the dignity of Afghans. But the idiots like Karzai, Abdullah Abdullah, and Ashraf Ghani have turned Afghans into Indian minions. Try to rediscover your real worth. It's not money (that Indians are throwing like master throws bones to his dog). It's the dignity. You are the nation that has never been ruled by others. Why then your leaders are licking Indian feet?

 

[Blue Marlin]

Pak-India tensions seen dominating Indian BRICS summit

http://www.dawn.com/news/1289952/pak-india-tensions-seen-dominating-indian-brics-summit

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Interesting read:

China not Pakistan's perpetual 'jolly partner'

Where Modi and Xi may see eye to eye, at least privately, is in a shared desire for Islamabad to act against militants who, in Beijing's view, pose a threat to China's plans to build a $51.5 billion trade corridor that runs through Pakistan to the Arabian Sea.

"Contrary to the public messaging in Islamabad, China is not the perpetual jolly partner when it comes to its relations with Pakistan," said Michael Kugelman, a senior program associate at the Wilson Centre in Washington who focuses on South Asia.

isn't that the idea? create noise.

I am not an indian but from an Afghan perspective what is important is that China uses whatever leverage it has on Pakistan that it changes her policies vis-a-vis Afghanistan [ which means stop supporting Afghan Taliban and other militant groups] and we see CPEC where China will invest massively as increase that leverage that China will carry with Pakistan.

We in Afghanistan see CPEC is a good omen for the region and we would like to be part of it and we fully support Chinese OBAR vision but you do realize that unless Pakistan changes her policies vis-a-vis militants which wreck havoc in Afghanistan this region will be distalized, Chinese border regions will be destabilized.

and why do you think china is gonna use its leverage on pakistan?
the chinese weren't exactly born yesterday on banana boat? they know the current and the previous afgan governments have been anti pakistan. but the chinese know this is not in the interest of the true afganistan. as india cant change afganistan yet it relies on it, sure it can build schools and hospitals but when the country is in turmoil it means nothing. as much as it would hurt you pakistan is the country that will solve your problems. and the afgans being anti pakistan is a death sentence. afganistan is measly a tool of revenge. would india care if afganistan fell? no. why? theres a country separating them from you. they will wash their hands and move to eastern iran bordering pakistan.

 

[venu309]

Let the sick-minded Indians try to 'isolate' Pakistan by exploiting the gathering of world leaders who came all the way to India for pondering on important global issues rather than applying any cream on butt-hurt Indians. First of all, there is absolutely nothing in common between, say, India and Russia or India and China - Indians are sick-minded sub-class of third world countries with criminal mind-set and pervasive poverty stricken population. Anyhow, while these idiot jokers amuse their dignitaries with their non-sense acts and talks (which no one in world gives a damn - rather people enjoy the laughing a$$ Modi), Pakistan will keep striving for higher goals of regional trade, development, highways, integration and prosperity. Pakistan has already been declared having top world rank in infrastructure development for this year. Iran and Saudi Arabia are already tempting and desiring to join the CPEC project. Afghanistan also seems getting out of Indian leash and requesting to join CPEC. Afghan ambassador said today in Islamabad "the CPEC was a great project that was equally relevant to Afghanistan like Pakistan, and anything that will be good for Pakistan will be good for the entire region." On the other hand, Pak PM Nawaz Sharif is in Baku these days for cementing trade and defense ties with brotherly country of Azerbaijan. Besides, troops from 18 countries are participating in a joint military exercise this week in Lahore. And look at this idiot Modi. He is dreaming to isolate Pakistan. What a bloody fool living in his own shell.

Let Indians burn in their own deep jealousy for Pakistan. Such nasty idiots as Indians indeed deserve a miserable life - a life that suffers depression and death every moment. We need not attack and kill these animals. To make Indians hurt, desperate, and depressed, we need to keep doing positive work of development, trade, links, integration, and prosperity. The bloody pessimist and deeply sick-minded Indians would resort to terrorism, lies, and jealousy. Let Indians get pushed in oblivion and isolation by striving for regional integration. That's the ultimate punishment that we can inflict on these useless filthy scumbags. As the Afghan ambassador in Islamabad was reported: “I think CPEC is not limited to Pakistan, it is for the entire region particularly Central Asia,” the envoy maintained. But make no mistakes. That integration is among regional countries Pak, Afghan, Iran, China, CARs, and Russia. Let Indians be happy by having SAARC (i.e. BD, Bhutan, Nepal) in their palm. Kalli kutti wassay, katoorian nal hassay (a bitch lives a pathetic lonely life while playing with its own puppies).
http://www.dawn.com/news/1289978/afghanistan-desires-role-in-cpec-says-afghan-envoy

You sound very frustrated!

 

[idune]

Barnett Rubin has been on the record several times on how Chinese diplomats have been quietly proding Pakistan in changing her polices with regards to Talis, hope it pays off because at the end of the day it will be beneficial for both Pak and Afghanistan.

Talibans (not TTP like group cretaed by US and india) are sons of Afghanistan and have legitimate and most prominent right and place in Afghanistan politics, policy and power structure, Taliban role in Afghanistan are given and recognized by everyone including US, Russia, China, Pakistan, KSA, even Iran; except offcourse india and india proxy regime in Afghanistan.
Taliban major goal is to rid of foreign occupiers as they did in 80's. But US & indian goal is to keep proxy stooges in power. That is the fundamental difference between Talibans and Afghan proxies.

As you are self proclaimed traitor, willing to sell your motherland to foreign occupiers, none of your statement has iota of moral or logical value.

now that your real place and identity is set, lets see what you have to say about indian interest using of Afghanistan as indian proxy.

 

[A-Team]

Talibans (not TTP like group cretaed by US and india) are sons of Afghanistan and legitimate right and and place in Afghanistan are given and recognized by everyone including US, Russia, China, Pakistan, KSA, even Iran. Except for india and india proxy regime in Afghanistan.
Taliban major goal is to rid of foreign occupiers as they did in 80's. But US & indian goal is to keep proxy stooges in power. That is the fundamental difference.

As you are self proclaimed traitor, willing to sell your motherland to foreign occupiers, none of your statement has iota of moral or logical value.

now that your real place and identity is set, lets see what you have to say about indian interest using of Afghanistan as indian proxy.

are you feeling better now? nobody cares what you think or want, you do not matter!

 

[idune]

are you feeling better now? nobody cares what you think or want, you do not matter!

offcoure I do not matter and do not care; so long my words are putting you in your right spot. So dont chicken out let's see what you got to say as an indian proxy.

 

[tarrar]

And who is that threat? Indian paid who*es.

If only we had a nationalist running Pakistan then things would had been different. Different in terms of good. But we have a brainless sob & a traitor running Pakistan with PA supporting their treacherous DEMOCRAZY.

 

[A-Team]

offcoure I do not matter and do not care; so long my words are putting you in your right spot. So dont chicken out let's see what you got to say as an indian proxy.

Maybe some other time my friend Knowing all the Bangladeshi folks I know you don't mean ill and I know we started on the wrong foot which is sad.
I also know that you are position on Afghanistan is not accurate and the reason for this can be either you have limited information vis-a-vis Afghanistan or that we Afghans have not explained our position clearly.

In short we Afghans don't really care for India, Pakistan, US or whichever country, it is all about Afghan interests, if today US and Afghan interests converge because they need bases and we need their assistance to rebuild our country and her security institutions, this does not come out of thing air, you need assistance, you need know-how.
For instance what is the commonality between communist China and Sunni muslim Pakistan, is the language, is it the food, is the culture or religion, NOTHING, they have nothing in common but here you have Pakistan basically bending backwards [ no offense meant ] towards China because Pakistan sees interest in that relationship, and thus you need to understand the situation of Afghanistan.

Here is short video of Ashraf Ghani explaining the Afghan situation in SCO conference. Please listen to it with an open mind and put yourself in our shoes and decide for yourself on how Afghans still going through hardship because we want to create a strong state.

/Peace

 

[wiseone2]

Taliban major goal is to rid of foreign occupiers as they did in 80's. But US & indian goal is to keep proxy stooges in power. That is the fundamental difference between Talibans and Afghan proxies.

Does that include Pakistan ??

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Thank you for calling spade-a-spade vis-a-vis Talis.

Barnett Rubin has been on the record several times on how Chinese diplomats have been quietly proding Pakistan in changing her polices with regards to Talis, hope it pays off because at the end of the day it will be beneficial for both Pak and Afghanistan.

Well I am at it, something that most of the Pakistanis still don't understand or maybe we Afghans are bad at communicating this but for Afghanistan India does not replace Pakistan, Pakistan is our neighbour and it will be foolish for us to be part of the India Pak rivalry. All we want for Pakistan is to treat us like sovereign state and deal with us in our own ways and not deal us keeping in mind India because Afghanistan cares for iher own interest and not india's, or anyone else's.

I think this is the place that Pakistan makes a mistake, because it puts us by default in the India camp and if I were a Pakistani I would treat Afghanistan as a sovereign state and that way your genuine concerns would be answered.

fuk the politicians n politics brother..

 

[Allen Iverson]

Michael Kugelman from the Wilson Centre in Washington USA said Xi and Modi share the same sentiment on this issue, therefore it is immediately the sacred truth for the Indians here?

Maybe, you know, maybe there is a chance that he is wrong? Do you think that is possible?

You are the second poster after the OP.. No Indians have posted anything on this post.. Why are you so obsessed in making yourself look like a fool.. It is obvious from your post that you want to troll.. But it is sad that no Indians fell for it..