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So the only way to tell which is better would be through dog Fighting capabilities

To early to predict anything, but it seems it will be not at level of F-22 & 35
The advanced Missiles on PAK-FA are yet to tested & there is no mention about HMD
every thing goes in favor of F-22 & F-35
now before you come on thrust vectoring, see this


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Yes my dear the prototype is 5 generation aircraft because

Its engine is so stealthy that if you even place it at a distance of 1m from radar even then radar cant see it

It is giving coolest exhaust and a not a single molecule is black

Finally it is stealthy because India has funded the program
 
If you look closely the engines are aligned at an angle to the central axis with the nozzles pointing lightly outwards.

The inlet guide vanes are angled with respect to the line of sight so as to prevent direct observation by radar of the rotating fan blades.

Since Russian engines need more air this is the only way to achieve both requirements.
 
2 prototypes simultaneously? :eek:

Cant say with 100% assurance but may be the change in the view angle let you to this claim.
 
will you guys stop making a new thread for the same news.....i know a lot of people are proud and a lot jealous.......but this is sick ...each one making a new thread when he suddenly happens to see the news and thinks that he is the first one to hear it,,,,,,
 
And when are where are these tests conducted?

any reference.


Flying Lab has tested the engine for the fifth generation fighter aircraft
Topic: Creating a fifth generation fighter in Russia


MOSCOW, January 27 - RIA Novosti. The first flight of a flying laboratory Su-27M with a engine designed for the fifth generation fighter aircraft, successfully completed on January 21 in Zhukovsky near Moscow, said on Wednesday the press office of Saturn, the company-developer of the engine.
"The flight lasted 45 minutes and was successful, the comments to the engine was not. At the commencement of the flight engine, including a brand new automatic control system has taken a series of ad hoc and endurance tests. Upon completion of the required amount of flying laboratory tests obtained at the conclusion First flight of the fifth generation with a new engine, "- said in a statement.
Fifth-generation fighter, which in Russia is also called a promising frontline aviation aircraft complex (PAK FA), developed with the 1990's.
Creating a fifth generation fighter in Russia>>
New aviation complex will have several unique features: clock, all weather and stealth applications, low visibility and long-term supersonic flight. The aircraft will get a new on-board navigation station and a highly automated system of defense.
Representatives of the military-industrial complex said that tests of the new fighter will have to begin before the end of this year, but in early December, Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov said that the trials would begin in 2010.
Tests of the fifth generation fighter will begin in 2010>>
Plane at the end of last year made his first jog in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin said earlier that the fifth-generation fighter will begin to act in Russia's troops in 2015.
JSC "Scientific-Production Association" Saturn "- engine manufacturing company that specializes in developing, manufacturing and after sales service of gas turbine engines for military and civil aircraft, ships of the Navy, power generation and gas pumping units. The company is part of the new engine of the Joint Corporation (JDC) - 100 per cent subsidiary of a corporation specialized Oboronprom engine-management assets.

Source: Novosti
 
I find it good looking i find F-35 horrible but F-22 a sweet tart but its the avionics and engine that'll change the scenario it sure is a bit smaller than YF-22 but larger than F-22.
 
YouTube - First 5th generation multiaxis nozzle
Thanks for the video.

now look people.. exactly what i am trying to tell. TVC engine by no means stealthy and my point being that the with 2 huge engines vectoring up and down will emit huge IR signature and without even use of a radar IRST system will spot the plane BVR. Check out the nozzel of the engine which looks nothing different then a conventional non stealth engine nozzle. Their are tons of documentaries about stealthy engine nozzles like the one on F-22 and F-35.
 
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Well TBH you cant say anything yet about this fighter...its just the first prototype. If you wanna see how Russian aircrafts change from prototype to production variants just check out the development of the T 10 to the SU 27. One cant say jack about the aircraft until it is out in the open. There are a lot of things which you need before giving an analysis of the aircraft. Yes the Engine nozzles are huge I agree but more design changes will be made. The aircraft looks more like a cross between the YF 22 and YF 23 to me. So I would rather wait for all the flight charecteristics to be known before making comments.
Oh god not this bullcr2p again! either indians have habit of not reading or they are just too deluded.
If indians are expecting huge structural changes on this prototype like that of YF-22 and F-22 then expect another 17 years until a final variant is in service with IAF. YF-22 flew in 91 F-22 in 97 and after 10 years did the F-22 cleared FOC in USAF. DO indian seriously expect a significant structural change like YF-22 F-22?
 
just one thing i never like about Russian planes "landing gears" rest is pleasing to eyes..
 
When fully matured I'm sure no one will be laughing. But for now, we can laugh a little. That engine area needs more work than my first car did to qualify as 5th generation. Anyone check out that tiny nosecone? Does that house a MiG 21 radar by any chance? Absolutely in shambles when compared to the YF prototype that preceded the mighty F-22 Raptor.
 
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