PAK-FA shortlisted for South Korea stealth fighter competition

[angeldemon_007]

What happend to their own 5th gen fighter project ? Also if they will purchase a 5th gen fighter it will be from US.

 

[aanshu001]

60 5th gen for 7.86 billion $ means 120 for 15.72 billion $ than 126 4++ looking costly for 10 billion $.

 

[Black Widow]

Lockheed claimed F-35 costs $ 65 million , lower than all four.

O is it, I will buy one for me... .... Here 4.5 gen fighters are costing 80-100 Mill USD, from where they will make 65 Mill F35??? Are they going to outsource its production to Vietnaam or china?????

 

[Vibs]

Lockheed claimed F-35 costs $ 65 million , lower than all four.

That's the baseline version they tried to quote and convince India . Reports place current cost at around $170 Mn a piece and may even go up due to escalating development costs.

 

[Jon Snow]

Defense officials shocked by F-35 price jump - Globes

Defense officials shocked by F-35 price jump

"Defense News": The IAF and Defense Ministry are trying to reduce extra features.
18 November 08 13:16,
"Defense News" reports that Ministry of Defense and Israel Air Force officials are "stunned by projected program costs for their Israel-unique version of the F-35" Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), manufactured by Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE: LMT). IAF and Ministry of Defense officials are struggling to pare a hefty list of customized subsystems and add-ons that threaten to ground the aircraft as unaffordable.
"Defense News" states that, in September, US F-35 program officials gave rough price and availability data to their Israeli counterparts, who reacted with sticker shock to the price tag of $200 million per plane. Since then, both sides have been seeking a new configuration that can meet IAF performance and budget requirements. The IDF had expected to pay about $2 billion - $80 million per plane - for the first 25 aircraft.
Israel has an option to buy up to 75 F-35s.
"Defense News" quotes a US government source as saying, "Their budget was not in sync with the rough order of magnitude data they received. To put it mildly, they were overwhelmed. The customer was drawing from their experiences with the F-15 and F-16, which are third-generation, rather than a fifth-generation fighter with significant international content that is evolving and becoming real."
"Defense News" quotes a IDF General Staff official as saying, "It's unbelievable. First it was $40 million to $50 million, and then they [the IAF] told us $70 million to $80 million. Now, we're looking at nearly three times that amount, and who's to say it won't continue to climb?"
The new estimates are based on Israel's letter of request to the Defense Security and Cooperation Agency, the Pentagon section responsible for the deal, and not from Lockheed Martin. The new Pentagon estimate, based on Israel's letter of request for 75 planes, reaches $15.2 billion, including the aircraft, engines, electronic warfare and C4I systems, training and logistics support, and other services, and features, including "unique systems for sovereign requirements."
Lockheed Martin spokeswoman Cheryl Amerine told "Globes" in response, "The statements (by the Pentagon) to Congress (about weapons deals with foreign countries) are customary and conservative in order to ensure that the cost of all components of the deal reported do not deviate from the given ceiling.
"In addition, the letter of request of the Israeli government includes countless options intended to satisfy IAF specifications. In contrast to the eight countries partnering with the US in the manufacture of the F-35, which made their specifications during meetings over eight years, the US and Israeli governments are at the start of this process. We are pleased that the IAF has shown great interest in the F-35. We believe that the F-35 offers the best available capabilities at the best possible price."




and this was 3 years ago - price has only risen since then

 

[The_magnificent]

What happend to their own 5th gen fighter project ? Also if they will purchase a 5th gen fighter it will be from US.

South Korea Drops 5th-Generation Fighter Plan - Defense News

REad this

 

[luckyyy]

EFT is there but why Rafale not in the shortlist ?

 

[tvsram1992]

Why not PAKFA it would be a winner of course if Korea not compromises on buying 5th generation fighter.
Even this time both US planes will be eliminated in this Jr MRCA . By the way that would be funny .
PAKFA is the best airsuperiority fighter and may be the cost effective among all the ones.
But PAKFA with both koreas would be really interesting.

 

[tvsram1992]

This is the good time for us to go up with another Medium/Light 5th generation project with Russia.
Every one is irritated with F35 price tag.
PAKFA will be a good substitute and much better than F35.
Hope FGFA will not be exported and it will be Su30mki where as PAKFA is like Su27.

 

[tvsram1992]

double post

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

I belive China will block sale of PAK FA sale to South a it will not want two neighbour with stealth aircraft and commitment to North korea.

There no recent record South going for Big Russian purchase.

 

[Jon Snow]

I belive China will block sale of PAK FA sale to South a it will not want two neighbour with stealth aircraft and commitment to North korea.

There no recent record South going for Big Russian purchase.

china has little to no say in whom russia wants to sell its arms to......

 

[tvsram1992]

I belive China will block sale of PAK FA sale to South a it will not want two neighbour with stealth aircraft and commitment to North korea.

There no recent record South going for Big Russian purchase.

N Korea is not a fool to reject PAKFA if offered.
India will be a mediator if PAKFA is for S Korea

 

[nickjgc]

Lockheed claimed F-35 costs $ 65 million , lower than all four.

f 35 a = 122 million, f35 b = 150 million, f 35 c = 140 million

 

[Alugaar]

I belive China will block sale of PAK FA sale to South a it will not want two neighbour with stealth aircraft and commitment to North korea.

What you think they cant go for F35 ???