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Pak, China eyeing ‘bigger economic bloc’ between Asian nations

Pakistan is only showing our loss is your loss, stop bulling and trying to hurt Pakistan economically because that wont happen due the sole reason...our location. What India can do to BD, Nipal and Bhutan will not work on Pakistan. For Pakistan India is meaningless country.

You guys should go your own way & we, ours. The relationship between India & Pakistan won't be changing anytime soon, trying to have a grouping with the both of us in it is a recipe for problems.
 
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Pakistan is only showing our loss is your loss, stop bulling and trying to hurt Pakistan economically because that wont happen due the sole reason...our location. What India can do to BD, Nipal and Bhutan will not work on Pakistan. For Pakistan India is meaningless country.

if you say so
 
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Pakistan is only showing our loss is your loss, stop bulling and trying to hurt Pakistan economically because that wont happen due the sole reason...our location. What India can do to BD, Nipal and Bhutan will not work on Pakistan. For Pakistan India is meaningless country.

IMHO, it has something to do with the mindset too. Pak folks don't want to live under the Indian hegemony and any hint is also unacceptable. In 1947 they risked everyting to get their independent country, and very few folks would utter to "eat grass" to safeguard that. It's like asking the Turkish folks to get accommodated under the Greeks..
 
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Asia is the future only because China and India are Asian states. If you exclude India "Asia" becomes a little weaker

Nothing stops Pakistan, Iran and Turkey from forming a common market. The fact it has not happened tells me it will never happen.

Using China to access Central Asia is fine. It leaves you at the mercy of China.

Central Asia is not El Dorado. Kazakhstan has oil. Turkmenistan has natural gas. It is not going to move the needle for Pakistan which has close to 200 million people. Azerbaijan is connected to the Black Sea.

Hostile relationship with India ends any advantage for Pakistan as part of South Asia
Hostile relations with Pakistan is a bigger disadvantage for India because u need access to central Asia
And pakistan can prosper with out India
 
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Asia is the future only because China and India are Asian states. If you exclude India "Asia" becomes a little weaker

Nothing stops Pakistan, Iran and Turkey from forming a common market. The fact it has not happened tells me it will never happen.

Using China to access Central Asia is fine. It leaves you at the mercy of China.

Central Asia is not El Dorado. Kazakhstan has oil. Turkmenistan has natural gas. It is not going to move the needle for Pakistan which has close to 200 million people. Azerbaijan is connected to the Black Sea.

Hostile relationship with India ends any advantage for Pakistan as part of South Asia


Flawed logic. CPEC did not start till April 2015 but it still happened. Pakistan forming a strong economic relationship with Turkey and Iran IS already happening albeit slowly. The conflict in Syria has slowed this process down for now though. Already a train service between Pakistan, Iran and Turkey is being created:

https://channel24.pk/breaking-news/...n-turkey-rail-road-corridors-operationalised/

http://dailytimes.com.pk/business/2...tions-to-be-finalised-by-december-murat-mustu

You guys should go your own way & we, ours. The relationship between India & Pakistan won't be changing anytime soon, trying to have a grouping with the both of us in it is a recipe for problems.


Lol.....that relationship will NEVER EVER change.

Pakistan's enivateable but certain exit from SAARC and South Asian affairs in general WILL happen because Pakistan has very little if anything in common with South Asian nations. Pakistan's future lies with China, Turkey, the Middle East and Central Asia. The war in Syria is actually delaying this process.
 
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Good luck to Pakistan. Pakistan's future lies with central Asia, while India's with east Asia.

Better for to exclude us, as 90% of our population hates you all. We would just be fine without your interference. Get out, the sooner the better, for all of us.
GOOD LUCK,TO OUR DEAR INDIAN FRIENDS.
 
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Pakistan working to form new alliance of Asian nations for greater economic connectivity

Official source dismisses notion efforts by Pakistan are aimed at sidelining SAARC

Kashgar route of China to be used as principal link with Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, other states through Karakoram





Pakistan is quietly scrambling to form a greater economic alliance of South Asian nations with other Asian allies to outmanoeuvre the eight-member South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC), Pakistan Today has learnt reliably.

“Yes, using Pakistan’s strategic geographic location and its clout on other Asian states, Pakistan is working to form a new alliance of Asian nations for greater economic connectivity between South Asian, Central Asian, West Asian and East Asian states,” a senior diplomat in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed while talking to this scribe on the condition of anonymity.

The official said that Pakistan was, while benefitting from its geostrategic location, working on half a dozen economic and energy corridors to link South Asia with Central Asian, West Asian and East Asian countries.

The source, however, rubbished the notion that the efforts by Pakistan were aimed at sidelining the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC). “This is childish to think that we are trying to sideline SAARC. We are just planning to explore the ways and means to avoid terrorism-hit countries like Afghanistan which is a major impediment in regional connectivity,” the source said.

Asked to elaborate, the official said that since peace efforts were failing in conflict-hit Afghanistan, Pakistan and China had decided to use Kashgar as a new venue to link South Asian states with central Asian states.

“Pakistan is the shortest possible route to central Asian states. We have decided to also use the Kashgar route of China as the principal link with Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and other central Asian states through the Karakoram Highway which is not only safer but a shorter route too,” the source added.

The official said that Pakistan was in close coordination with other South Asian states for the new economic bloc.

“China, Middle East, Iran and some Central Asian states have already expressed their willingness to join this larger alliance of like-minded South Asian states with central and east Asian nations,” the source said, adding that this was the reason behind a flurry of high-profile visits between Pakistan and other regional powers.

“Around 15 high-level exchanges have taken place during the recent past between Pakistan and other friendly states. They are all part of the efforts by Pakistan to form a greater economic alliance,” the source added.

The source said Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had recently visited some of these central Asian states while the top dignitaries of these countries had also visited Pakistan. The official further said that the initiative also augured well for China which would be playing a key role in persuading Central Asian republics and Iran to join the new arrangement.

INDIA WELCOME TO NEW ALLIANCE TOO:

Asked whether the new economic bloc would include India, the official said India was an important regional player and Pakistan would welcome if it joined the new alliance. “Yes, why not? We are open to India’s joining of the new bloc,” the official said. Asked why India would be welcomed as the hegemonic designs of the Indian establishment may also turn the new alliance into a failure like the SAARC, the diplomat said that China’s presence would help strike a balance.

“India would not be in a position to dictate terms on the bloc,” the official said, adding that Indian involvement would be a sign that India also wanted to remain positive to reap the dividends of regional connectivity.

Meanwhile, Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed, Pakistan’s special envoy on Kashmir, also hinted at the same development during his five-day visit to Washington. He said that this group would be more effective than the SAARC.

“A greater South Asia is already emerging,” said Mushahid in one of his interactions with the media.

“This greater South Asia includes China, Iran and the neighbouring Central Asian republics.” “We want India to join this arrangement as well,” added Mushahid.



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Mian Abrar
The writer heads Pakistan Today's Islamabad Bureau. He has a special focus on counter-terrorism and inter-state relations in Asia, Asia Pacific and South East Asia regions.


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INDIA WELCOME TO NEW ALLIANCE TOO? Why? Why mixing the evil in this all? Allow Indians in it if you want to jinx that route too. Doesn't make sense to me. The people of Pakistan will not let a single Indian truck pass through their country. These idiot Indians need to be kept and cut to their real worth.
 
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Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if ww3 starts from India and Pakistan...
China has kept cool so far but India will do some provocation beyond China's limit in a year or two in SCS on the behest of its new master.....That can also turn into an ugly war.
 
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Better for to exclude us, as 90% of our population hates you all. We would just be fine without your interference. Get out, the sooner the better, for all of us.
GOOD LUCK,TO OUR DEAR INDIAN FRIENDS.

Are u Pakistani? U have BD flags. BD is part of BIMISTEC.
 
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Good luck to Pakistan. Pakistan's future lies with central Asia, while India's with east Asia.
Pakistan's future encompasses the whole world but with special emphasis on Asia.
 
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Just Thinking of Future Investment , As Gwadar is Pacing up its progress
How about Buying Land There is it Save , and reliable ?
Whats the Difference which area is better to invest there
 
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