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Pak, Bangla still stand apart

Between The Lines
Pak, Bangla still stand apart
Kuldip Nayar

Visiting Pakistan and Bangladesh within a span of 14 days is like harking back the 40 years when the two countries separated from each other. Why did it happen? How did it happen? Who was responsible for it? Such an exercise can only be of academic distraction. But it is clear that the disputes between the Bengalis in East Pakistan and those living in West Pakistan had become so acute towards the end of the sixties that their parting of ways had become inevitable.

I was at Islamabad in the end of March and at Dhaka in mid-April. What I have seen in both the countries underlines my earlier belief that the two peoples are so different in their thinking and approach that they could not have lived together as one country. Both are proud to be Muslim. Yet, the Islam practiced in Bangladesh is liberal and accommodating. The demagogues are there. But they do not disturb the rhythm of life, which is pluralistic.

Text books in Bangladesh teach history. They do not distort it or preach enmity as the books in Pakistan do. A Hindu is not considered an enemy in Bangladesh. Even the liberation war 1971 has been told in a historical perspective without chauvinism and vengeful note. Bengali, the national language which was sought to be replaced by Islamabad with Urdu and ultimately led to the secession of East Pakistan, has given birth to a different culture, tethered to Islam but not to parochialism. Urdu does not figure anywhere. Signboards are mostly in English and at very few places in Bangla and English.

Dance, music and art are galloping freely. They do not have to conform to a particular way or style. It is an art for the sake of art. Rabindranath Tagore is as much popular and loved as Qazi Nazarul Islam, the poet laureate of Bangladesh. Kathak and Odissi, the two types of dance in Bangladesh, are not discouraged because they have the Hindu orientation. Nothing in dance or music is banned so long as they are in realm of art. Women wear no hijab and very few men keep long beards. And there is no law of blasphemy, not even a murmur of demand.

Pakistan has many liberals. But they are afraid to speak out and be counted. The assassination of Punjab governor Salman Taseer and Cultural Minister Shahbaz Bhatti has muffled the voice of critics. Hafiz Syeed, leader of Lashkar-e-Toiba, talking in terms of jihad against India, makes news. A person like him does not cause even a ripple in Bangladesh. The Jamaat-e-Islami here tries to muddy the water of secularism but without much effect.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina has many negative traits. But her relentless fight against communal forces is her positive contribution to the ethos of Bangladesh. The government, unlike at Islamabad, shows no quarters to religious forces meddling in the affairs of the state or society. Founder of Pakistan Qauid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah had also advised the Pakistanis to adopt a similar path. But his untimely death changed the course.

Terrorists have no direct or indirect support from the government, something which I cannot say for certain after my recent visit to Pakistan. But then East Pakistan was always more liberal than West Pakistan and was even considered close to Hindus. A Bangladeshi intellectual explained to me how their separation from Pakistan took away from that society liberalism and the sense of accommodation, leaving the country to wallow in extremism and prejudice.

Bangladesh founder Sheikh Mujiur Rahman told me in 1972, when I interviewed him at Dhaka: "All along Pakistan has preached four things: one, Islam is in danger; two, the Hindu is kaafir; three, India is the enemy; and four, Kashmir must be conquered. The Pakistanis have been fed on this propaganda for the last many years. The hate campaign unleashed in that country is even against the tenets of Islam. Unless there is a change in the mentality of the people of Pakistan they cannot get out of their make-believe world."

Yet I found a streak of sympathy for Pakistan. Many used the word "pity." I believe that an overwhelming majority in Bangladesh feels that the Pakistanis face a situation which requires understanding and help. Bangladesh has neither forgotten not forgiven the atrocities committed against their nationals in 1971. But that does not stop some nostalgically recalling the period when the two lived together. The younger generation is indifferent, like the youth in India towards Pakistan.

What Islamabad does or does not has little effect on relations between India and Bangladesh. New Delhi is responsible for it. Dhaka has practically done everything which the accord between the two countries laid down. It has given the transit facilities to enable northeastern states to have better and quicker connectivity with the rest of India. Yet the much-publicised loan of $1 billion has not come through.

Indian officials blame the Bangladesh government for not providing the Detailed Project Reports (DPRs) which the banks demand before releasing loan. I have been assured that the DPRs have reached India and that the loan will be released within the next few days.

However, the better news for Bangladesh would be free trade. I have never been able to understand why New Delhi drags its feet when it comes to trade with Bangladesh or, for that matter, Pakistan. Duty free trade with them would make little difference to the imports worth billions of dollars. The two countries can gain from the huge market India has. This would create vested interests in Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Sheikh Hasina is anxiously awaiting the visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The signing of Teesta River agreement is expected. But more than that Hasina hopes to shore up her sagging popularity through the agreement and other goodies. I hope she turns out to be correct. But my experience is that India is too squeamish when it comes to dealing with the neighbouring countries. New Delhi is yet to learn the art of diplomacy.

The writer is an eminent Indian columnist. Kuldip Nayar, Journalist and Columnist from India, India Pakistan Issue, Books written by Kuldip Nayar, A Former Ambassador to UK, Former Rajya Sabha MP, Hindustan Journalist
 
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^^^ since when did bangladesh allow india transit to north east?
 
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Both are proud to be Muslim. Yet, the Islam practiced in Bangladesh is liberal and accommodating

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A Hindu is not considered an enemy in Bangladesh.


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Very nice article.. I have a firm belief that Bangladesh will leave Pakistan way behind, economically in next decade or two. The signs are already there..
 
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I was at Islamabad in the end of March and at Dhaka in mid-April. What I have seen in both the countries underlines my earlier belief that the two peoples are so different in their thinking and approach that they could not have lived together as one country. Both are proud to be Muslim. Yet, the Islam practiced in Bangladesh is liberal and accommodating. The demagogues are there. But they do not disturb the rhythm of life, which is pluralistic.
Good to see Bangladesh's moderate face is being shown here. Recent change of constitution to secular one came into news is also good sign.



You want to flame troll? So be it:

All I can tell you right now is that WE do not kill pregnant hindu women with swords like YOU do with your muslims:

Hindu_Terrorism_Against_Muslims_4.jpg

:P
Do you know how many Hindus where killed by you in 1971 war? Many. So we better think about future not past.
 
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Kuldip Nayyar is a Wagah candlelighter.

His article is interesting to read.

Most important is the announcement, that has happened after the article was written I presume, that the border niggling are being addressed.

Things take time and all will fall in place and things will be work out for better relations between BD and India.

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You want to flame troll? So be it:

All I can tell you right now is that WE do not kill pregnant hindu women with swords like YOU do with your muslims:

Hindu_Terrorism_Against_Muslims_4.jpg

:P

From which side of your body are you talking?

Apparently, you are a juvenile.

Guess what?

I am sure you believe that a cow jumped over the moon.

You don't believe it?

Here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Diddle_Diddle
 
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Pak, Bangla still stand apart

Between The Lines
Pak, Bangla still stand apart
Kuldip Nayar

Visiting Pakistan and Bangladesh within a span of 14 days is like harking back the 40 years when the two countries separated from each other. Why did it happen? How did it happen? Who was responsible for it? Such an exercise can only be of academic distraction. But it is clear that the disputes between the Bengalis in East Pakistan and those living in West Pakistan had become so acute towards the end of the sixties that their parting of ways had become inevitable.

I was at Islamabad in the end of March and at Dhaka in mid-April. What I have seen in both the countries underlines my earlier belief that the two peoples are so different in their thinking and approach that they could not have lived together as one country. Both are proud to be Muslim. Yet, the Islam practiced in Bangladesh is liberal and accommodating. The demagogues are there. But they do not disturb the rhythm of life, which is pluralistic.

Text books in Bangladesh teach history. They do not distort it or preach enmity as the books in Pakistan do. A Hindu is not considered an enemy in Bangladesh. Even the liberation war 1971 has been told in a historical perspective without chauvinism and vengeful note. Bengali, the national language which was sought to be replaced by Islamabad with Urdu and ultimately led to the secession of East Pakistan, has given birth to a different culture, tethered to Islam but not to parochialism. Urdu does not figure anywhere. Signboards are mostly in English and at very few places in Bangla and English.

Dance, music and art are galloping freely. They do not have to conform to a particular way or style. It is an art for the sake of art. Rabindranath Tagore is as much popular and loved as Qazi Nazarul Islam, the poet laureate of Bangladesh. Kathak and Odissi, the two types of dance in Bangladesh, are not discouraged because they have the Hindu orientation. Nothing in dance or music is banned so long as they are in realm of art. Women wear no hijab and very few men keep long beards. And there is no law of blasphemy, not even a murmur of demand.

Pakistan has many liberals. But they are afraid to speak out and be counted. The assassination of Punjab governor Salman Taseer and Cultural Minister Shahbaz Bhatti has muffled the voice of critics. Hafiz Syeed, leader of Lashkar-e-Toiba, talking in terms of jihad against India, makes news. A person like him does not cause even a ripple in Bangladesh. The Jamaat-e-Islami here tries to muddy the water of secularism but without much effect.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina has many negative traits. But her relentless fight against communal forces is her positive contribution to the ethos of Bangladesh. The government, unlike at Islamabad, shows no quarters to religious forces meddling in the affairs of the state or society. Founder of Pakistan Qauid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah had also advised the Pakistanis to adopt a similar path. But his untimely death changed the course.

Terrorists have no direct or indirect support from the government, something which I cannot say for certain after my recent visit to Pakistan. But then East Pakistan was always more liberal than West Pakistan and was even considered close to Hindus. A Bangladeshi intellectual explained to me how their separation from Pakistan took away from that society liberalism and the sense of accommodation, leaving the country to wallow in extremism and prejudice.

Bangladesh founder Sheikh Mujiur Rahman told me in 1972, when I interviewed him at Dhaka: "All along Pakistan has preached four things: one, Islam is in danger; two, the Hindu is kaafir; three, India is the enemy; and four, Kashmir must be conquered. The Pakistanis have been fed on this propaganda for the last many years. The hate campaign unleashed in that country is even against the tenets of Islam. Unless there is a change in the mentality of the people of Pakistan they cannot get out of their make-believe world."

Yet I found a streak of sympathy for Pakistan. Many used the word "pity." I believe that an overwhelming majority in Bangladesh feels that the Pakistanis face a situation which requires understanding and help. Bangladesh has neither forgotten not forgiven the atrocities committed against their nationals in 1971. But that does not stop some nostalgically recalling the period when the two lived together. The younger generation is indifferent, like the youth in India towards Pakistan.

What Islamabad does or does not has little effect on relations between India and Bangladesh. New Delhi is responsible for it. Dhaka has practically done everything which the accord between the two countries laid down. It has given the transit facilities to enable northeastern states to have better and quicker connectivity with the rest of India. Yet the much-publicised loan of $1 billion has not come through.

Indian officials blame the Bangladesh government for not providing the Detailed Project Reports (DPRs) which the banks demand before releasing loan. I have been assured that the DPRs have reached India and that the loan will be released within the next few days.

However, the better news for Bangladesh would be free trade. I have never been able to understand why New Delhi drags its feet when it comes to trade with Bangladesh or, for that matter, Pakistan. Duty free trade with them would make little difference to the imports worth billions of dollars. The two countries can gain from the huge market India has. This would create vested interests in Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Sheikh Hasina is anxiously awaiting the visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The signing of Teesta River agreement is expected. But more than that Hasina hopes to shore up her sagging popularity through the agreement and other goodies. I hope she turns out to be correct. But my experience is that India is too squeamish when it comes to dealing with the neighbouring countries. New Delhi is yet to learn the art of diplomacy.

The writer is an eminent Indian columnist. Kuldip Nayar, Journalist and Columnist from India, India Pakistan Issue, Books written by Kuldip Nayar, A Former Ambassador to UK, Former Rajya Sabha MP, Hindustan Journalist

True words from Sheikh M Rehman.
 
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Kuldip Nayyar is a Wagah candlelighter.

His article is interesting to read.

Most important is the announcement, that has happened after the article was written I presume, that the border niggling are being addressed.

Things take time and all will fall in place and things will be work out for better relations between BD and India.

---------- Post added at 02:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:58 PM ----------



From which side of your body are you talking?

Apparently, you are a juvenile.

Guess what I am sure you believe that a cow jumped over the moon.

You don't believe it?

Here it is:

Hey Diddle Diddle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kuldip Nayyar is a pro pakistan because he was born in pre indipendent India. He always forgiving and rant about peace for pakistan.

The manmohan singh and Kuldip Nayyar are of same breed who born in today's pakistan and are deing for peace and says we as a big brother should be extra accommodating, generious and take initiatives when pakistan don't give a crap to our peace efforts or don't treat us like that.
 
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Very nice article.. I have a firm belief that Bangladesh will leave Pakistan way behind, economically in next decade or two. The signs are already there..

Soon, it will be ...

Agreed with most part of the article about peoples perception and moderate cultures. Should be an example for our rioter neighbor.
 
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Soon, it will be ...

Agreed with most part of the article about peoples perception and moderate cultures. Should be an example for our rioter neighbor.

Everyone should learn from their neighbours, like how you should learn from your western neighbour.
 
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Everyone should learn from their neighbours, like how you should learn from your western neighbour.

Western State? From Narendra Modi's State, Belong to India? Lol...
 
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Western State? From Narendra Modi's State, Belong to India? Lol...

You have a lot to learn from Gujrat, the entrepreneurship of Gujratis being the foremost.
 
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