Here is picture LE Agencies rolling with Armored Vehicle. Can't identify it.
Thats what I'm saying my main man..
Yep, I was agreeing with you, I’m not that used to this forum so my replies to certain comments might be in the wrong place, sorry about that.
never saw them in Swat.many precious lives were lost just because of this cause
We didn’t have them back when the Swat op started, we started getting them Around 2013-2014. Please read up before commenting.
It is said that 22 Caspirs came in crica 2013,never heared it more than that.
Navistar Defense LLC, Lisle, Illinois, was awarded a $35,077,157 firm-fixed-price, foreign military sales contract (Pakistan) for the procurement of 40 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) MaxxPro Dash DXM foreign military sales vehicles, various support items, and contractor logistics and technical support services. Bids were solicited via the Internet with one received. Work will be performed in West Point, Mississippi; and Pakistan, with an estimated completion date of Oct. 31, 2018. Fiscal 2010 other funds in the amount of $35,077,157 were obligated at the time of the award. Army Contracting Command – Tank and Automotive, Warren, Michigan, is the contracting activity (W56HZV-17-C-0038).
https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Contracts/Contract/Article/1086534/
SIPRI 2016 Data shows that Pakistan Army has took possession of 230 MaxxPro MRAPs.
A safe assessment can be made that,Pakistan has got almost around 300 of these MRAP's of all kinds but here is question?
We havn't seen any in operational usage,so where are they?
P.S:-I have seen a type which isn't listed anywhere.
You answered your own question, we received the first batch, very small numbers, back in 2013-2014 as you said. The forces needed to be trained on them first and the numbers weren’t that great. The Swat Op was in 2009. Couldn’t have been used back there. Zarb-e-azb started in 2014. MRAPS were used in the ending stages of that OP, but the start of it was where most of the Casualties to IEDs were, and at that time we didn’t have many of these.
After 2016 there weren’t any active war-zones and these were in fact used in OPs and raids after that as pictures suggest.(as the SIPRI report of 2016 suggests, we got over 230 of them, I hadn’t checked it that recently so I said we’d have a hundred something, which would be true for around 2015, which is when I visited swat and saw them deployed there too).
The timeline checks out, we have hundreds of them now, but the majority of them came after most major operations had ended. Kind of sad, but that’s how it is.
As for where are they now; A few are deployed in Baluchistan and a few in Former FATA. Most are in storage as there isn’t any use for them at the moment. That’s how it’s been since 2016. When there’s a use, they will be deployed once more.
Keep in mind they can’t be used for normal transport here and there. It’s not what they’re meant for.
The tactics have been used in the world to improve survivability of pick ups/ jeeps in the past even I read somewhere that our military used some tactics in 1971 war, my reply was just to make point that even pick ups can be made useful.
That is true, I didn’t understand that from your first comment, my bad.
HIT did have a bulletproof Land Rover defender listen under its products at one time, I remember seeing info cards and such about it. It was basically a Land Rover fitted with add on armor and such. But I suppose doing that to so many pickups would be pretty damn expensive, especially back in 2007-2009 when the military barely had any money. Now maybe it’s feasible.
Anyone have info on what happened to our domestic MRAPS...
To be fair currently the part of our forces which need MRAPS are fc ,they may have bullet proof vehicles but those are really not adequate.
40-50 additional would be enough for the FC in Balochistan. Plus an additional equipment ,training and restructuring would help plenty with Baluchistan
The one MRAP project we had back in the day was the Burraq MRAP, there were actually prototypes made of it and you can find pictures of it online, but it never got to completion. Getting them from USA was the easier and faster option as they were needed ASAP, sadly they still got to us too late.
The FC does use them in Baluchistan. But they’re not exactly meant for normal transport. Especially when IEDS aren’t a threat anymore. Bulletproof cars like Mohafiz and Dragoons are better for that purpose.
As for the retraining and restructure, that’s exactly what the FC has undergone in the last decade, especially in KPK, Baluchistan Will hopefully follow suit.
