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Pak Army moves heavy artillery at border to ‘shock’ Afghanistan

Pakistan's artillery arsenal

203 mm
M110 ~ 60
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155mm
M109 ~ 265
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SH-1 ~ 90

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Panter ~ 40- 60
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M198 ~150
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I don't think as have a plan for ground incursion into Afghanistan..

Its for anyone trying to enter our country illegally from now on. There need to be check and balance on the transport side of the things and we should capture people who are travelling from Fata to other part of the country without valid Visa or ID card. (i know its hard but need to have effective measures in place) Similarly we have done on the rented properties, it should be on travel as well.

Drone will fly alot now and army gunships will be in place to tackle immediate needs...
 
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How long will it take for PA to learn? Acoss the border Terrorists havae centers but they are mobile. Will artillery shells pursue each running away terrorist? Totally uningenous response!
Instead of eliminating eliminating terrorists using PAF rather than just their camps, Pak has gone into a deeper hole of going into a regular war.
Terrorists have already dispersed, sleepers cells will just bid their time and attack when they get their opportunity. They are just a phone call away from RAW/NDS handlers.

I think they serve a more threatening purpose. I have mentioned that Drone strikes(For targeted killing of terrorist leaders) and Airstrikes are more effective in another thread.
Guided shells must be used as much as possible because Pakistan will have to face the consequences (including Indian trolling here) if a shell accidently landed on a school or hospital
 
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If Pakistan is thinking of an ground incursion into Afghanistan I hope we have cleared it with NATO. Its not the ANA that we need to worry about.

They will not DO S#it, This entire area has been left empty by them and they removed their posts many years ago. So if an area that has no presence of governance, Law & Order there, the only thing that exists there is isis+ttp that kills afghan forces then under what pretense can they stop us from eliminating terrorist and occupying that region when NATO is occupying afghanistan for 16 years to show utterly disastrous failure as a result?
 
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They will not DO S#it, This entire area has been left empty by them and they removed their posts many years ago. So if an area that has no presence of governance and Law Order there, the only thing that exists there is isis+ttp that kills afghan forces then under what pretense can they stop us from eliminating terrorist and occupying that region when NATO is occupying afghanistan for 16 years to show utterly disastrous failure as a result?


I agree with you. The only problem is when has NATO needed an excuse to do anything? They attacked Salal for absolutely no reason. NATO could legitimately invoke international law to make the Pak Army as the aggressor and then draw us into a protracted conflict. Anything that weakens us is good for NATO, Afghanistan and India. Why gift them this? That's why, we should be careful but as long as we have guarantees and arrangements in place I agree we should go after them in Afghanistan itself.
 
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I agree with you. The only problem is when has NATO needed an excuse to do anything? They attacked Salal for absolutely no reason. NATO could legitimately invoke international law to make the Pak Army as the aggressor and then draw us into a protracted conflict. Anything that weakens us is good for NATO, Afghanistan and India. Why gift them this? That's why, we should be careful but as long as we have guarantees and arrangements in place I agree we should go after them in Afghanistan itself.

Believe me NATO is no longer that way anymore they are now more worried about Russia + China hence amassing in Europe and NATO is a spent force with limited ground force available which is why their money spent on ANA's ghost soldiers speaks volumes for their incompetence. We share the biggest border with them and they are landlocked even with chabahar and Iran becoming their route for groceries can never replace the fact we have the largest border and the highest number of their countrymen staying in Pakistan.

But the best approach in my humble opinion is to follow the method that rooted out and destroyed Pablo Escobar by having a Militia that can hunt NDS+RAW terrorist in afghanistan ruthlessly, No need to military to step into afghanistan at all!!

But all this is fairy tales for as long as noora,taki,diesel and anp are not dealt with first.
 
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Believe me NATO is no longer that way anymore they are now more worried about Russia + China hence amassing in Europe and NATO is a spent force with limited ground force available which is why their money spent on ANA's ghost soldiers speaks volumes for their incompetence. We share the biggest border with them and they are landlocked even with chabahar and Iran becoming their route for groceries can never replace the fact we have the largest border and the highest number of their countrymen staying in Pakistan.

But the best approach in my humble opinion is to follow the method that rooted out and destroyed Pablo Escobar by having a Militia that can hunt NDS+RAW terrorist in afghanistan ruthlessly, No need to military to step into afghanistan at all!!

But all this is fairy tales for as long as noora,taki,diesel and anp are not dealt with first.

That is a much better idea. How about a faction of the Taliban paid solely for the purpose of hunting down Fazlulah and his crew?
 
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That is a much better idea. How about a faction of the Taliban paid solely for the purpose of hunting down Fazlulah and his crew?

in the 80's many afghans brought their families into the safety of Pakistan while men went back to fight the soviet occupation. The situation in afghanistan is sooo bad I mean soooo bad that if afghanistan collapses then 4 million afghans will head for europe? Read that in RT today!

For afghans in Pakistan offer them safety and security to their families with a mechanism to integrate them into Pakistan, For the price they go and marauder indian terrorist in afghanistan. just like Ajit Doogal said we will use afghans against Pakistan well mother f#cker so will we.
 
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in the 80's many afghans brought their families into the safety of Pakistan while men went back to fight the soviet occupation. The situation in afghanistan is sooo bad I mean soooo bad that if afghanistan collapses the 4 million afghans will head for europe? Read that in RT today!

For afghans in Pakistan offer them safety and security to their families with a mechanism to integrate them into Pakistan, For the price they go and marauder india terrorist in afghanistan. just like Ajit Doogal said we will use afghans against Pakistan well mother f#cker so will we.

We literally allowed Afghans free reign in Pakistan. Look what we got in return? Heroin, explosions, AK47's, kidnappings and abductions etc etc...They have been nothing but parasites. Furthermore, with the prevailing sentiment in Europe 4 million Afghans will be forced back into Pakistan leaving us either to allow them in or kill thousands of them at the border. We can be made to look like crap in front of the whole world. All i am saying is that we should consider all angles before doing anything. But we need to send a very real message to both Afghanistan and India. I have noticed that the LOC has been quiet for the last few days? Indians have been a little quiet. Maybe the message is getting through? Who knows.
 
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Pressure tactic to me these days we dont want army at indian border but with afghanistan border as most of the militants are crossing from that side.
 
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Yes the same that was working during OBL raid and at the time of Salala check post..
اور وہ والا بھی جب 4 ساب-2000 لائن میں طالبان کے آسرے گھڑے کر کے 27 رمضان کی رات ائیر فورس کے جوان گناہ بخشوانے چلے گئے تھے ۔
 
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