Pak air force narrows gap as IAF struggles to get fighter jets

[Pak.one]

Has this got anything to do with this thread??
Jf17- is planned to be the backbone of PAF.
While Tejas is going to replace the mig 21's and mig 27's only and it is certainly better than both of them. And will occupy the lower most tier of IAF.
Your jf-17 is going to be pitted against su 30 mki,rafale's,mirage 2k-5's, mig29 smt's.
The odds are stacked against you.i wish you all the luck.


And we have c-17's now which you can only dream about.

C17 we don't dream about it we will go for the Y 20 which will be better than this and sanction proof so chill and wait for the time of induction

 

[satishkumarcsc]

No doubt, US can pulverize NK but it would take NK to fire just one shot even at Japan or SK for US to consider it's actions.... I'm glad that unlike your country-fellows, you know and admit that IAF aircraft were intercepted by PAF.
However there's another story to this tale, regarding a certain phone call to Zardari.

Yeah you would already have been under high alert after Kasab was caught red handed and the whole media was delivering judgement. The IAF was not even scrambled. That was a normal reaction from your side.

 

[assassin123]

C17 we don't dream about it we will go for the Y 20 which will be better than this and sanction proof so chill and wait for the time of induction

Y 20 has almost 10 tons lesser payload than c 17 with a much lesser range.

 

[Windjammer]

Yeah you would already have been under high alert after Kasab was caught red handed and the whole media was delivering judgement. The IAF was not even scrambled. That was a normal reaction from your side.

Believe me, PAF can distinguish between SU-30, Mirage-2k and superman.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Believe me, PAF can distinguish between SU-30, Mirage-2k and superman.

That i did not deny...but the reaction time you mentioned might still be under question....what if PAF was already ready for this?

 

[assassin123]

While one may know their own capabilities, he can only speculate on others. The fear of unknown has always haunted human conscious.... else US would have attacked North Korea without a second thought.
BTW, it was the reaction time by the PAF which made IAF stand down in 2008.

Stand down?
There was no offensive action taken by IAF during 2008 Mumbai attacks against Pakistan.
You are creating false bravado stories from virtually nothing.

 

[Pak.one]

1.. if you try to do that then forget your whole country because India already said if any one use any type of nuclear weapons against our forces in any part of world in any country then we consider it a nuclear war and at, that time there is a no chance of survival of Pakistan...

2.. hope u don't know that India recently done a deal with Russia for a supersonic bomber .., and about the ballistic missile defense I don't know u here about , AAD or not if not Pls do .. and pls also study about Barak 8 system which is one of the most advanced anti cruise missiles defence system..

3.. yep, sukhoi have large radar signature but how your going to counter it nd remember sukhoi will locate your any fighter jets before you locate them and with bvr of sukhoi u will defenetly see heavens.. nd do some research sukhoi is also upgrading to super sukhoi with aesa radar...and, India mainly brought the Rafael for there missile system...

4.. are you seriously idiot or assume others idiot first brought some money for some potent 4th generation aircraft... nd leave that j7 Chinese upgrade with metal body... nd until you get 5th generation aircraft India have both rafales, and also FGFA...

So after that you think hindustan will survive in Pakistani nuclear strike on delhi,mumbai kolkata,hyderabad banaras goa chennai bengaluru all will be hell and hinduism will be vanish from the face of globe

 

[Basel]

Adding more JF-17s to the mix isn't narrowing any gaps but widening them as far as quality of the fire power and intensity of a threat is considered.

Its not about just JFTs it also include other equipped, also block-3 will be 80% Rafael so do your math, because Rafael will be most advance bird in IAF till 5th gen bird arrives.

 

[Windjammer]

Stand down?
There was no offensive action taken by IAF during 2008 Mumbai attacks against Pakistan.
You are creating false bravado stories from virtually nothing.

Look, if you are seeking attention or want to be popular then i suggest you remain on one of those Indian forums where blind leads blind.....since i have no time for your kind who have no knowledge and prefer to live in denial.

2008 air alert
After the 2008 Mumbai attacks, PAF was put on high alert. It deployed to all its wartime locations and started combat air patrols. The speed and intensity of the deployment and PAF's readiness took the Indian Army High Command by surprise and later reports suggest was the main factor in the Indian decision of not going for cross border raids inside Pakistan.[45][46] PAF was issued a Standing Order to launch an immediate counter-attack in case of an air attack from India, after a call from the Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee to the Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari (the call later turned out to be a hoax).[45][46][47][48][49]

 

[Basel]

ok kid lets start

1. what if i told you that you might have nars & shaheen and so called ababeel (of which you have done only one test & think its oprational wow )

what if i told you we already have four layered PESA &AESA radar network backed mu multiple SR, MR & LR and now AAD , PAD while S300 PMU is been ther for quite some time and we already made deal for S400 and talks on for Arrow 3

2. well do you have any idea about indian bombers and what is acyutaly a stealth bomber and will chinese sell you stealth bomber ? first try getting those 8 F16s without CSF or WR for USA then dream of so called stealth bombers

3.a bhramos takes to its traget at mach 2.3 and you do not have anything to stop when all your prime assets are just within its range (50-250 km from indian border) rest speulate yourself

4. do you have any idea about the BVRs and PGMs , LGBs and other guided air to surface missiles of IAF we got fro russia,france & israel over the years

5.and does JF17 eve has AESA but but wait MKI does have BARS IBRIS-E Hybrid PESA-AESA radar which is one of a kind first among the transition russians made the first genration AESA you can say which american wanted us to switch on many times in red flag exercises but we dint google it kid

do you know peak powr out out of JF17 radar and what is peak power out put of MKI radar go google it and its relevence in EW im sure you will find it revolutionary concept

6. and last but not the least this is the age of multi tasking and indian sir force is going that way all our fighters like MKI , M2K & Fulkrums have massive EW+ECM+Jammer suits even jaguars are getting israeli EL2052 AESA radars with Derby ER BVRs which are cnsiderred better than AIM120D (we also have latest gen russian R77 & french MICA & Israeli DERBY, I DERBY ER & Python5 VWRs)

so kid if you have no idea what IAF has right now cause if have not even told you about the PGMs, LGBs , SDBs or Glide bombs or anty radiation bombs /missiles and all those different smart pods we have plus the fact we are practising with singaporean air force F16 staioned in india for at least a decade with all the best tactics and inputs from israeli instrutors and pilots about your F16s so dont think we dont know about you and your prime assets and how to handle them rst you can speculate yourself

in short there is a reason why neither PAF nor PLAAF is ready to engage IAF in a direct or indirect mode cause they know the kind of sting we can diliver its only the arm chair general and fan boys who dont know keep making fun of IAF

If IAF is so mighty then why India is barking since 2002, why no bite from India?? Because in war things will be very bloody for India too.

 

[Pak.one]

If it was, Tejas would have been the front-line fighter and not the MKI or Rafale. Unfortunately, you guys have to claim the JF-17 is the "game-changer"..of course insecurities because of that would be a natural byproduct or illusions, both of which we witness in plenty with the fanboys here on PDF.

Then why you indians come here.to talk your fantasy ?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Based on the recent development, IMO, the continuous strengthening of Pak military is of utmost importance to the leading Ehl-i Sunnet countries. It's a persevere/persist or perish case for some folks other than Pak!!!

 

[Pak.one]

1.Bro first see your nasr, missile range and in that range it can't attack deep inside India and for that type of missile India has Barak 8,missiles if you know that and India don't have to deploy in all country we mainly new near the border to track any incoming things...

2.for the offensive missions India have jaguar, mirage 2000, Mig 27, Mig 21, Mig 29 its all make around 200 aircraft sufficient for Pakistan and remember all are upgraded to latest specifications..

3.so, what you think India is, a fool by jst going inside Pakistan India first take out your air defense with missile like brahmos..
And India has also phalcon awacs which is better than Chinese one and India is also making its, own awacs with Israel.. and India mainly need this awacs in Pakistan border and with phalcon awacs range when this will remain 100 kilometers inside Indian territory it can track cover most part of Pakistan territory..

4. I told u before mirage nd jaguar a fully upgrading with aesa radar so, its also too high for Pakistan.

When your first brahmos will be fired towards Pakistan,we will fire our short,medium and long range missile raining over great indian empire with a speed of mach 3 to 5 your are shields will be useless that will be end of South asia if you are ready for the mutually assured destruction MAD then come on start the war but you don't have the balls to do that otherwise in 1987,1998,1999,2001,2008,2016 you must start a war,but you know the result therefore your country always just make big claims which later on prove water buble.so keep urself in your cloths.(apnay kaproon mein rahoo warna baad mein nanga ho kar bhagna parray ga)thanx

 

[assassin123]

Look, if you are seeking attention or want to be popular then i suggest you remain on one of those Indian forums where blind leads blind.....since i have no time for your kind who have no knowledge and prefer to live in denial.

2008 air alert
After the 2008 Mumbai attacks, PAF was put on high alert. It deployed to all its wartime locations and started combat air patrols. The speed and intensity of the deployment and PAF's readiness took the Indian Army High Command by surprise and later reports suggest was the main factor in the Indian decision of not going for cross border raids inside Pakistan.[45][46] PAF was issued a Standing Order to launch an immediate counter-attack in case of an air attack from India, after a call from the Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee to the Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari (the call later turned out to be a hoax).[45][46][47][48][49]

Look, if you are seeking attention or want to be popular then i suggest you remain on one of those Indian forums where blind leads blind.....since i have no time for your kind who have no knowledge and prefer to live in denial.

2008 air alert
After the 2008 Mumbai attacks, PAF was put on high alert. It deployed to all its wartime locations and started combat air patrols. The speed and intensity of the deployment and PAF's readiness took the Indian Army High Command by surprise and later reports suggest was the main factor in the Indian decision of not going for cross border raids inside Pakistan.[45][46] PAF was issued a Standing Order to launch an immediate counter-attack in case of an air attack from India, after a call from the Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee to the Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari (the call later turned out to be a hoax).[45][46][47][48][49]

And you quote Wikipedia page about PAF to prove your stories .

Also read what before you post,this doesn't even tell anything about IAF.

 

[Panzerkampf]

If IAF is so mighty then why India is barking since 2002, why no bite from India?? Because in war things will be very bloody for India too.

In 2002 we already achieved our objectives; that is of a vaSt reduction in infiltration from Pakistan:

Many specialists believe that the Indian deployments were an exercise in coercive diplomacy -- a giant bluff to persuade General Musharraf to clamp down on Pakistani terrorists and to frighten Washington into taking India's demands seriously. But India's military preparations were so extensive that the Pentagon found it difficult to tell if the Indians were simply posturing or putting themselves in position to attack.

''I think from the beginning this has been a massive exercise in coercive diplomacy,'' said Stephen P. Cohen, an expert on South Asia at the Brookings Institution. ''The Indians used the threat of war to force Pakistan to back down. They have come out ahead -- as long as nobody makes a mistake.''

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2002/01/20/world/kashmir-threat-eases-but-us-still-sees-dangers.html