Pak-Afghan trade diverting to Chahbahar port

[BHarwana]

As for fencing a border where none exists, this is a Pakistani obsession . The temporary Durand line agreement EXPIRED and as the Taliban have made clear , they , nor any other Afghan accepts the fanciful border .

Once a unified Taliban are in power they will ensure the Afghan nation is reverted to its ORIGINAL and real border.

The final struggle for the unification of the Afghan people is nearly at hand.
It will take many decades and maybe generations but the Afghan nation will reunite its disparate peoples

Bandar Abbas was VERY RARELY used by Afghans if ever, hence the demand for Chahbahar by both the Iranians and the Afghans

For Pakistan Afghanistan is manageable. We did it quite well before 911. We can do it again. I only see Indian wheat ships docking at Chahbahar all of the other countries are using Pakistani ports for trade with Afghanistan. What about Indian investment in Afghanistan what is the future of that after US withdrawal?

 

[Path-Finder]

As for fencing a border where none exists, this is a Pakistani obsession . The temporary Durand line agreement EXPIRED and as the Taliban have made clear , they , nor any other Afghan accepts the fanciful border .

Once a unified Taliban are in power they will ensure the Afghan nation is reverted to its ORIGINAL and real border.

The final struggle for the unification of the Afghan people is nearly at hand.
It will take many decades and maybe generations but the Afghan nation will reunite its disparate peoples

Bandar Abbas was VERY RARELY used by Afghans if ever, hence the demand for Chahbahar by both the Iranians and the Afghans

yay victry for india.

 

[American Pakistani]

For Pakistan Afghanistan is manageable. We did it quite well before 911. We can do it again. I only see Indian wheat ships docking at Chahbahar all of the other countries are using Pakistani ports for trade with Afghanistan. What about Indian investment in Afghanistan what is the future of that after US withdrawal?

That guy @Turingsage learnt probably in his army propaganda school that the Durand line had a best buy time stamped to it. The fact is that there is no such thing as exp date for Durand line agreement.

 

[Safriz]

Thank you"Holy" Iran for collaboration with your Holy India against Pakistan

 

[BHarwana]

That guy @Turingsage learnt probably in his army propaganda school that the Durand line had a best buy time stamped to it. The fact is that there is no such thing as exp date for Durand line agreement.

This was Taliban leaders statement he said today. They are not interested in talks with India cause Imdia always supported traitors and corrupt in Afghanistan to loot the country.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Another trade union leader Imtiaz Ali Khan said that due to the bad trade policies of the government the traders of Iran and central Asian countries were interested in Afghanistan now and they have started investment and launched trade activities via Chabahar port of Iran where India has spent billion dollars to boost trade between Iran, India and Afghanistan.

That's just tactics by these traders to get the containers released at a fast pace. There is absolutely no evidence that trade in Chahbar has taken off in a meaningful way.

There are two reasons why Chahbar has failed so far:

1. Iran is not cooperative one bit
2. US sanctions. None of the banks provide LOC and you cannot insure your containers because they would violate US sanctions.

The masks that were bought by the Afghans for Covid had to be channeled through Pakistan because no freight forwarder wanted to risk violating US sanctions. This article is absolutely B.S.

 

[khail007]

What Pakistan is getting from Afghan transit trade? Only smuggling of items back to Pakistan and loosing money in the form of import taxes. Most of the items goes to Afghanistan are those doesn't required by Afghan people.
Afghans need food (chicken, beef and wheat).
Wheat/Cattles (Cows/Buffaloes) usually smuggled from Pakistan.
For chicken they are trading with Pakistani poultry farmers - they pays money to local poultry farmers for brooding period (2-3 weaks of age) due to intense cold in Afghanistan, in which chicks usually don't survive without heating and doing brooding in Afghanistan get costly and not viable. Afghan traders take the chicks to Afghanistan after brooding period is over.
I just noticed, how Indians are now praising Talibans; rather than for drawing lines, first they will take care of Indian terrorist training/planning centers on their soil and their second option will be to protect Muslims in the region from occupational terrorists forces and that is the base of their ideology. Most of people know what I mean .

 

[Turingsage]

The fact is that there is no such thing as exp date for Durand line agreement.

You have been taught poorly. It is time you stopped reading Pakistani propaganda and ACTUALLY learn history. Esp the Afghan British agreements to calm the frontier

They are not interested in talks with India cause Imdia always supported traitors and corrupt in Afghanistan to loot the country.

More fool you. They are ALREADY talking to Indians though neither particularly wants to advertise this at the moment. These talks are delicate and as the Taliban said they have to talk to India, it cannot be avoided to please third parties

What about Indian investment in Afghanistan what is the future of that after US withdrawal?

India invested in building their Parliament, their schools, their hospitals, their roads, their dams and bridges. There was NEVER any payback agreement. Schools parliaments bridges do not produce money. These things were done to help Afghans and they have. Afghans LOVE Indians and they loathe Pakistanis. Just walk and talk to any Afghan you come across on the streets of ANY CITY TOWN OR VILLAGE. Talk to any Afghan in UK or Europe/USA . They are of ONE view re Indians and Pakistanis
Whats more I know that and the worlds diplomatic community knows that.
I suspect every PDF keyboard general knows it too.

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

It was inevitable once Chahbahar became partially operational. As it moves to full interoperability trade will be diverted via that route and with it will decline Pakistan's opportunity of constant blackmail and threats towards Afghanistan.
It will finally free the Afghans to trade with whomsoever they wish to.

Trade diverting to Chahbahar port

May 16, 2020

Nasib Shah Shinwari

Landikotal

The Pak-Afghan Traders and Custom Clearance Agents have complained that due to bad trade policies most of the traders in Afghanistan have started investment via Chahbahar port where India has spent billion dollars to boost trade between Afghanistan and Iran.

Talking to media, a senior Pak-Afghan Transit Trade Custom Clearance Agent, Gulab Shinwari said that thousands of Pak-Afghan transit trade containers have stranded at Karachi port.
He said that traders were facing big loss as they have to pay demurrage money every day from last many months for these stranded containers.

He demanded those stranded containers should be released soon and should be exported via Chaman and Torkham border that the traders could avoid further loss.

The custom department services and operations at Torkham should be carried out 24/7 hours and more export trucks should be cleared daily.

Another trade union leader and president of Pakistan customs clearance agents association Ziaulhaq Sarhadi said that ban on Pak Afghan transit trade and export have caused a huge economic loss to Pakistan national exchequer.

The trade ministry despite a big loss to trade in Pakistan was not giving attention to resolve this issue and restore the trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan. Sarhadi stated and added that Torkham custom department should be made 24/7 hours operational to help restore the trade between two countries.

Another trade union leader Imtiaz Ali Khan said that due to the bad trade policies of the government the traders of Iran and central Asian countries were interested in Afghanistan now and they have started investment and launched trade activities via Chabahar port of Iran where India has spent billion dollars to boost trade between Iran, India and Afghanistan.

He said that Prime minister Imran Khan has been kept unaware about the trade decline between Pakistan and Afghanistan and the bilateral trade between these two countries has almost come to an end.

https://pakobserver.net/trade-diver...tm_campaign=trade-diverting-to-chahbahar-port

Every country is free in deciding their trade policies . By the way the situation they are talking arose because of Covid-19 .
Also current Afghanistan govt is v anti Pakistan , as they say Pakistan is backing Afghan Taliban so they want to hurt Pakistan economy which trust me will not effect much as informal trade with them damaged local industry Plus Prices in Pakistan esp KP and Balochistan are quite low because of stopping of smuggling to Afghanistan . Gawadar Port is opened for Pak-Afghan transit as well this month as was announced last month . Current Afghanistan govt is desperate to survive .

 

[HttpError]

You have been taught poorly. It is time you stopped reading Pakistani propaganda and ACTUALLY learn history. Esp the Afghan British agreements to calm the frontier


More fool you. They are ALREADY talking to Indians though neither particularly wants to advertise this at the moment. These talks are delicate and as the Taliban said they have to talk to India, it cannot be avoided to please third parties


India invested in building their Parliament, their schools, their hospitals, their roads, their dams and bridges. There was NEVER any payback agreement. Schools parliaments bridges do not produce money. These things were done to help Afghans and they have. Afghans LOVE Indians and they loathe Pakistanis. Just walk and talk to any Afghan you come across on the streets of ANY CITY TOWN OR VILLAGE. Talk to any Afghan in UK or Europe/USA . They are of ONE view re Indians and Pakistanis
Whats more I know that and the worlds diplomatic community knows that.
I suspect every PDF keyboard general knows it too.

lol, they don't love you it is just that they can't swallow the fact that Evil Punjabi Pakistanis are way better and stronger than them. Trust me if there was no Pakistan they would have had these same feelings for you. So don't fool your self that they love you.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As for fencing a border where none exists, this is a Pakistani obsession . The temporary Durand line agreement EXPIRED and as the Taliban have made clear , they , nor any other Afghan accepts the fanciful border .

Once a unified Taliban are in power they will ensure the Afghan nation is reverted to its ORIGINAL and real border.

The final struggle for the unification of the Afghan people is nearly at hand.
It will take many decades and maybe generations but the Afghan nation will reunite its disparate peoples

Bandar Abbas was VERY RARELY used by Afghans if ever, hence the demand for Chahbahar by both the Iranians and the Afghans

Good negative rating. False information and lies should not be tolerated on our forum.

 

[SD 10]

Son we dont give a shit about afghan trade....... But every single Indian in Afghanistan needs to be killed .

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This was Taliban leaders statement he said today. They are not interested in talks with India cause Imdia always supported traitors and corrupt in Afghanistan to loot the country.

This is the best thing about Taliban, they never play games or tricks. They always talk straight and honestly. If they don't like you, they will say it clearly.

For Pakistan, they have mostly kind words and comfort of solidarity and unity.

For India, exact opposite.

lol, they don't love you it is just that they can't swallow the fact that Evil Punjabi Pakistanis are way better and stronger than them. Trust me if there was no Pakistan they would have had these same feelings for you. So don't fool your self that they love you.

It is funny that Indian-backed Kabulie elite rely on old stereotypes against Sikhs and Hindus to lash out at Pakistan. When they say Punjabi, they are trying to make a false correlation to Ranjit Singh, who was an enemy of Pakistani Punjabis too.

Because they don't value Islam or Muslim unity, they try to use racist language to justify their hate. In Afghanistan, Islam is very popular and many Afghans have positive views of Pakistan. Afghans themselves are tired of Kabul's pro-Indian and pro-Iranians tilt.

 

[American Pakistani]

You have been taught poorly. It is time you stopped reading Pakistani propaganda and ACTUALLY learn history. Esp the Afghan British agreements to calm the frontier

Ok it has a time line, what you gonna do about it. We all saw how your balls were internally exploded on Feb 27.

 

[IceCold]

India invested in building their Parliament, their schools, their hospitals, their roads, their dams and bridges. There was NEVER any payback agreement. Schools parliaments bridges do not produce money. These things were done to help Afghans and they have. Afghans LOVE Indians and they loathe Pakistanis. Just walk and talk to any Afghan you come across on the streets of ANY CITY TOWN OR VILLAGE. Talk to any Afghan in UK or Europe/USA . They are of ONE view re Indians and Pakistanis
Whats more I know that and the worlds diplomatic community knows that.
I suspect every PDF keyboard general knows it too.

And yet it was Pakistan that was asked to negotiate settlement in Afghanistan and not India.