PAF surgical strikes in India, some observations, ramification.

[Kaniska]

Paf not targeted any military installation it is tactic by india to gain support of world and justify their future attacks against us we should not come in this trap it is tactic to isolate us and project india as affected by Pakistani aggression

Spot on...India crossed your boundary and placed a bet on you....Honestly speaking i doubt India has killed any one in Pakistan..Personally i am happy that not a major loss of life from your end....Now Indian army must be expecting Pakistan to take the bet and start attack any military installation....That is wht happened here...Now India can present itself as a victim of both terrorism and external aggression prior to taking any action...

 

[blain2]

Any thoughts on the Pakistani nuclear threshold being tested?

It is as opaque as we would like it to be. Just the way it needs to be.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Any thoughts on the Pakistani nuclear threshold being tested?

I dont think we have gone full retard that we will nuke Delhi and Bombay when IAF will breach the agreed SOP (peace time) of flying 3 KM within the Arial buffer zone and not get shot down, release the payload and do a run.

 

[valkyr_96]

Watch 13:09

and the next day presser by India
Watch 5:36

Pakistan did not target the buildings but its compounds that is some serious accuracy and statement

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Spot on...India crossed your boundary and placed a bet on you....Honestly speaking i doubt India has killed any one in Pakistan..Personally i am happy that not a major loss of life from your end....Now Indian army must be expecting Pakistan to take the bet and start attack any military installation....That is wht happened here...Now India can present itself as a victim of both terrorism and external aggression prior to taking any action...

India will have to first show the damages to it military installation and causalities. Question is, is there any Indian leader who got balls to admit that? And there is a slight issue of upcoming elections.

 

[valkyr_96]

Spot on...India crossed your boundary and placed a bet on you....Honestly speaking i doubt India has killed any one in Pakistan..Personally i am happy that not a major loss of life from your end....Now Indian army must be expecting Pakistan to take the bet and start attack any military installation....That is wht happened here...Now India can present itself as a victim of both terrorism and external aggression prior to taking any action...

You can try but the news has been unrelenting with major international new agencies having local reporters visit the area. Obviously since we are handing over the pilot and declared him are POW which he is not, (not that I have anything against his return) the ball is back in India's court.

 

[BATMAN]

That's what Indian military leadership got to say:

 

[zulu]

You can try but the news has been unrelenting with major international new agencies having local reporters visit the area. Obviously since we are handing over the pilot and declared him are POW which he is not, (not that I have anything against his return) the ball is back in India's court.

so India got one ball now??aab shayyed woh tv py ra*di roonay ky bajaye kuch field main bahaduri dikhaa lain

 

[valkyr_96]

so India got one ball now??aab shayyed woh tv py ra*di roonay ky bajaye kuch field main bahaduri dikhaa lain

Lets see Abhi is aware of the drama that was Nachiketa because he said it upfront let it be clear I will not change my statement when I go back. I still remember it, people had the same sentiments then, as they have now.

 

[BATMAN]

India airchief says, they will make comments on captive pilot once he's back in India.
They were sure of release before the announcement of ImranKhan.

I listened to the interview of ex PAF cief... he declared IAF claim of F-16 shooting as ludicrous.
However PAF need to come forward and debunk claims of Indian chief, which he made about electronic signature and wreckage of AIM BVR.

 

[zulu]

Lets see Abhi is aware of the drama that was Nachiketa because he said it upfront let it be clear I will not change my statement when I go back. I still remember it, people had the same sentiments then, as they have now.

isharah tu mera kuch aur tha good u rem that May 1999 drama but whats the harm if he go back and start saying the same language we hearing from indian media for last 2 weeks??but if said the other side of story???i was not in favor of releasing him so soon and without any talk but the top brass decided so now stand with them(dont forget they delivered the surprise they promised too yesterday)

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

What we can do, infact must put in the ears of "interested parties" who happen to be Isreali neighbors, that look, we have proven our system against Israeli products, and we are all ears about your inquires. After all, its all business at the end of the day.

Israelis, I am pretty sure, is one step ahead in this game!!!! They keep the top secret products for themselves!!! What they sell to India might be on the basis of the projects done by the summer interns!!!! And you try to tell that to the Israelis (why have your products failed?) - they will rebuke you down to their feet with the arrogance and audacity of Iblis....

Pak has got friends like Pak....

India has got friends like India...

 

[xyxmt]

Spot on...India crossed your boundary and placed a bet on you....Honestly speaking i doubt India has killed any one in Pakistan..Personally i am happy that not a major loss of life from your end....Now Indian army must be expecting Pakistan to take the bet and start attack any military installation....That is wht happened here...Now India can present itself as a victim of both terrorism and external aggression prior to taking any action...

the good thing that came out of this incident that no one, not even Indian, believe Indian govt and their leadership anymore, unlike them we did everything we say and have a documented proof of everything.

 

[Asian.Century]

2 Indian jets downed. Single seat and dual seat, total of 3 pilots. The initial information was hazy and it was possibly assumed that all 3 pilots parachuted into Pakistan. Eventually information updated to reflect just the one. The other 2 probably landed in India.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Locations targeted in Indian occupied Kashmir:

https://nation.com.pk/28-Feb-2019/pak-forces-zindabad

“We kept in mind that no collateral damage is caused. Therefore, keeping within our own air space, we selected Bhimber Gali, PG Top and Naryan area targets, our pilots locked those target. When they had an option to fire, they manifested responsibility and keeping safety engaged the targets in an open area.”

Bhimber Gali:


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Can easily spot a major infrasture and army trucks. Would be nice to get some confirmation if it is the Indian army Dev HQ.

Distance from LOC + 10 kms aireal buffer zone:

View attachment 543079

Standoff distance achive: 17KMs


Naryan:

There is no place coming up as Naryan. However, just above Srinagar, there is a place called Narayan. Guessing this is the place for the strike.

Distance from LOC + 10 kms aireal buffer zone:

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Standoff distance achived: 77KMs


PG top:

Location unknown. Not visible in google map (Please add in your comments if identified)


I have got confirmation that targets as far as 100KMs from LOC inside India were hit.


Pakistani strikes represented escalation, claims India


When asked if Pakistan's incursion and alleged targeting of military installations could be construed as an act of war, Air Vice Marshal RGK Kapoor avoided a yes or no answer and instead alleged that Pakistan had targeted military installations in its strikes, and that represented an escalation in itself.



According to own Indian admission, the targets hit were "military installations". This debunk Indian initial non sense that IAF chased PAF down and the strikes didnt happen. This also raise questions about Pakistan public narrative that it didnt hit the targets but dropped bombs nearby just to send the message, however according to Indian Air vice Marshall, Pakistan targeted the military installation directly. This gives credence to whispers going about that indeed Pakistan knocked out several Indian military installation causing considerable causalities among Indian forces.

Weapons used by PAF:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-4_SOW

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H4
Type Precision-guided glide bomb
Place of origin Pakistan
Service history
In service 2003–Present [1][2]
Used by Pakistan Air Force
Production history
Manufacturer NESCOM
Specifications
Warhead High explosives
Engine Solid propellant booster (rocketry)
Operational
range
120 km
Guidance
system
Electro-optical (infrared homing)


Launch platform : Mirage.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-2_SOW
H-2
Type Precision-guided glide bomb
Place of origin Pakistan
Service history
In service 2003 [1][2]
Used by Pakistan Air Force
Production history
Manufacturer NESCOM
Specifications
Warhead High explosives
Operational
range
60 km
Guidance
system
Electro-optical (TV or infra-red imaging)


Launch platform : Mirage.





Old discussion on PDF about these weapon systems.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/h2-and-h4-are-aam-or-agm.28713/




REK: (Range extenson Kits)

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-with-stand-off-range-weapon-gids-rek.483318/


View attachment 543092


Range: 100KM

Launch platform: JF-17

RAMIFICATIONS:

1) Since India is chosen by the western deep states to be their regional sugarbaby, there was a well established pattern going on , since the NRO'ed leadership (Zardari and Nawaz) took over Pakistan, that whatever non sense will come from India, Pakistan had to except it. NOT ANYMORE.

2) From now on, India cannot use Pakistan for its internal politics without getting its face disfigured. Questions should be asked within India, after receiving this humiliation of surgical strike by Pakistan and shooting down of IAF jets, which leader will go to polls and think he/she will get votes? Like what? give me votes cause I lead India just to get spanked by Pakistan?

3) No one including India could now use any pretext, terrorism specially, to violate Pakistan sovereignty.

4) By hitting India, the main poodle of "extra regional powers", a message is being send to some local irritants like Kabul regime and Iranian military and establishment. People like Solimani should now exercise restraint in their utterances.

5) Israeli weaponry and system, on this occasion, used by Indian forces have been rendered useless. Their SOW performance was utter shambols, and Israeli upgraded SU30 and Mig21 Bison got blown out of sky. The ease with which PAF hit targets deep inside IOK, made the short work of Israeli provided air defence systems. A big question mark over Israeli products. Its one thing to use on Palestinians and tin pot Syrian and Iranian forces, but here, its a different ball game.


6) A BIG, rather MASSIVE, marketing coup for JF17. You dont have to sell it now, it has done its talking in battlefield. From lower tear Mig21 to top of the line SU30, from air to air combat, to stand off ground attack in one sortie. A true multi role and affordable jet.

7) Great marketing for Pakistani weapon systems, The H series and REK.

8) If lower tier of Pakistani stand off weaponry can make mockery of India, what would be the likes of RAAD 1/2 and beyond (classified) would do ?

9) Make no mistake, rules of the game are changed now. Yanks and their poodles in the region are not going to write the script now and expect everyone to follow. Not anymore.

10) We didnt receive any support after Indian so called strike, we replied on our own, with our own resources, capability and will.



Please add your input and observations. Thank you.

This is a well dissected analysis and getting lost in all the rhetoric. Let me assure you that Pakistan has sent a very strong message to all parties concerned. This is big and it is not India centric. Let me repeat, it is not India centric!

We are forgetting the real surgical strike carried out by PAF. Forget the downing of fighters and capturing of pilots which is obviously a feat in itself. For me that is just a side show. Judging by subdued and disgruntled response of Indian authorities we can gauge what an impact this strike has left. It has dismantled and demoralized Indian psychology.

The way PAF infiltrated their airspace and mincemeated their military assets is mind boggling to say the least. The beauty is that PAF and officials aren’t gloating about it. It is so unbelievably graceful. Especially considering how IAF had the luxury of time to prepare in the wake of attacking Pakistan. After all India being the initiator had the luxury to anticipate and plan ahead.

We cannot comprehend how massive of a morale booster this is. It is massive.

India will have to first show the damages to it military installation and causalities. Question is, is there any Indian leader who got balls to admit that? And there is a slight issue of upcoming elections.

The Indians have only gone as far as admitting that the attack against military installations took place. They will never ever release the extent of damage, but judging by some Tweets from an ex-IAF pilot we can be rest assured it is more than significant. His words speak volume. This strike against Indian military installations has dented their morale in a big way.

Notice how the gang which was threatening Pakistan has gone into silence mode. They know what Pakistan achieved. It is a big scar that we left.

There is a reason why certain Zionists on this site are left in anguish LOL They understand what a blow Pakistan has delivered. The counter move is genius. It is overwhelming and it is the sort of response we will appreciate once people start thinking again without emotions. This one is for the history books folks.

I cannot imagine the pride and confidence PAF must be feeling after conducting such an offensive. Flying into enemy territory and destroy military installations without any loss. It is colossal.