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PAF jets fly over Siachen

The time of aces has gone. There is hardly any one on one engagement. Also its not only about hardware, it's also about strategy, tactics, training, integration, networking, operational readiness, intelligence etc. Combined with our non-nuke strategic capability PAF will be a very tough opponent to IAF and they know it hence the only thing that comes from India to Pakistan is a lot of chest thumping, false bravado, hot air and occasional #arts.

Hi,

When you write within reason---you seem to be a very smart poster---:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:
 
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Although that image is not from Siachen, however elsewhere it was your MKI which was forced to turn turtle when an SD-10 armed JF-17 appeared on the scene.

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You can't have aces in 2017. With your current inventory
Look what you have equipped your air force with today.
A budget fighter from China third tier way behind fc20 and their huge flanker fleet.
Legacy f16 which USA will almost certainly sanction in war with India
And obsolete mirages and f7.

Compare the inventory of saudi Japan Korea south Taiwan Israel Uae or India who have bigger better more potent more modern fighters and a far more aggressive doctrine .

Paf has one squadron of block 52.fighters which are genuinely world class the rest adds up to modest defense fighters or obsolete bomb trucks .

Look around your area see what others inducting and compare what you have then tell others they are barking

You people opened the thread paf buzzing saichen.

Current PAF inventory is enough for now to deal with the IAF threat. Also keep in mind war is also about psychology. Indians are generally very servile and docile and this is shown by the number of foreign empires that suppressed them for thousands of years. Pakistanis are generally aggressive and luck favors the brave. History of war between the two countries is a testament to that.
 
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Also keep in mind war is also about psychology. Indians are generally very servile and this is shown by the number of foreign empires that suppressed them for thousands of years. Pakistanis are generally aggressive and bravery favors the brave. History of war between the two countries is a testament to that.

What the Nazis were telling themselves all the way to Stalingrad ...
 
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Just making a historical observation.
Nah, what you made was a regionally based derogatory remark that has no basis in the history you claim to quote just for the sole purpose of sharing whatever morally questionable views you have on a certain population.

I'm not questioning what you said about invaders. We have been invaded at times and we have been the invaders at other times.
 
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Nah, what you made was a regionally based derogatory remark that has no basis in the history you claim to quote just for the sole purpose of sharing whatever morally questionable views you have on a certain population.

I'm not questioning what you said about invaders. We have been invaded at times and we have been the invaders at other times.

No need to get emotional about my comment. Just a passing observation. I don't harbor any prejudices against your people or anyone else.

Cheers!
 
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No need to get emotional about my comment. Just a passing observation. I don't harbor any prejudices against your people or anyone else.

Cheers!

watever u wrote is apt and fit best on people of region what is called islamic republic of pakistan.
 
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Sir when we critisize PAF then its not about PAF pilots but about the decision makers at PAF and GHQ ...

Why they were friad of coming outfront when cat was out of the box ... NS had already accepted that boys were ours so at that time PAF and GHQ should have provide them air cover at the time they were retreating but contrary in order to save their ugly faces they let them butchered ...

PAF decided (and wisely too!) to not allow escalation to full-scale war. An air war would have been disastrous. PAF did step up patrols and sorties without any violation of the border. However, such a tempo could not be maintained due to shortage of reserves for F-16 aircraft.

Kargil was a mistake that should never have been made. PAF deserves praise for its restraint. At least someone was wearing a thinking hat in PAF HQ.
 
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PAF decided (and wisely too!) to not allow escalation to full-scale war. An air war would have been disastrous. PAF did step up patrols and sorties without any violation of the border. However, such a tempo could not be maintained due to shortage of reserves for F-16 aircraft.

Kargil was a mistake that should never have been made. PAF deserves praise for its restraint. At least someone was wearing a thinking hat in PAF HQ.
Sir by that logic we should reduced all the armed forces and accept the hegemony of India like Bangladesh ...

Being short of spares in 1998, i.e. 13 years after pressler ammendment of your top tier fighter whereas no other fighter aircraft plan was there is a blunder ... There was no fighter aircraft procurement plan in the pipeline and we kept on sleeping ...

I had ignored that blunder considering that it was due to money stuck with Americans but procuring again blk 52 in 2007 deserves PAF decision maker a big slap and now we again stuck where Indians are going for Rafael and we will not be allowed our vipers with blk 60 upgrade kits as Americans are having love affair with Indians...

And we could not see that coming even when bush was negotiating nuclear deal with India whereas we were being pressurized by US and still we opt for going for blk 52 ...

I hope you know the history of kick backs involved on embargoed F16 which we took from our own payments to USA in the name of travelling and other expenses ...
 
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Although that image is not from Siachen, however elsewhere it was your MKI which was forced to turn turtle when an SD-10 armed JF-17 appeared on the scene.

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Current PAF inventory is enough for now to deal with the IAF threat. Also keep in mind war is also about psychology. Indians are generally very servile and docile and this is shown by the number of foreign empires that suppressed them for thousands of years. Pakistanis are generally aggressive and luck favors the brave. History of war between the two countries is a testament to that.
In the current situation one of greatest Pakistani asset is Indian arrogance, hubris and delusions.
 
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Plz tell me at what height this thunder at, as the globe is clearly round like near space
 
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