Ultima Thule
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For your post No 232 in that post you quote me bro, this is your postErrr.. My comment doesnt talk of the J-16 or the SU30.. who're you talking to?
Even the engines on the JF17 are intellectual property for Russia. In the initial phases when the FC-1 was being tested, Russia, on request of India, had raised a concern with China regarding giving out their tech to Pakistan. China found a way out without compromising the project.