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After this news:
India to order 36 more Rafales.
It is high time that the PAF wakes up and do something. 72 rafales and 272 MKIs are no joke.
We needed SAMs, latest EW capability and new jet fighters yesterday. F7s and mirages arent going to do anything for us when faced with rafales, mki, mirage 2000s and mig-29s.
For all of those things we only have 70+ F-16s and ~100 jf-17s. that is not even the bare minimum. This is literally saying "aa baill mujhay maar!"
 
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After this news:
India to order 36 more Rafales.
It is high time that the PAF wakes up and do something. 72 rafales and 272 MKIs are no joke.
We needed SAMs, latest EW capability and new jet fighters yesterday. F7s and mirages arent going to do anything for us when faced with rafales, mki, mirage 2000s and mig-29s.
For all of those things we only 70+ F-16s and ~100 jf-17s. that is not even the bare minimum. This is literally saying "aa baill mujhay maar!"

We seem to be sticking with hopes of F-16s ....we rejected many many platforms in evaluation stages just because we are heavily obsessed with F-16s.... Haven't we wasted so many yrs in this pursuit ?
 
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I think we should continue to focus on our JF17 platform

The threat is maximum , in Kashmir , as any destablity in Iran will cause a humanitarian crisis in Western Provinces , i.e Baluchistan

Indian forces are waiting for making a move as soon as our attention is diverted
 
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We seem to be sticking with hopes of F-16s ....we rejected many many platforms in evaluation stages just because we are heavily obsessed with F-16s.... Haven't we wasted so many yrs in this pursuit ?
Buying a new platform will cause a lot of money than buying F-16s and for a cash strapped air force this means a lot.
 
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Never believe Farhan virk, Zaid Hamid type ppl they run on agendas
watch ANI embedded clip.....leave farhan.

Buying a new platform will cause a lot of money than buying F-16s and for a cash strapped air force this means a lot.

Sir aap sahi farma rahey hein .....we had money for Jets procurement back in 2000 to 2005....but we couldn't decide....@mastankhan has already pointed out several times.
 
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In my opinion PAF have to buy some second hand F-16 to USA or other Air Force, and upgrade them to the V Block 70 standard.
Just like RMAF with 23 Block 52 upgrade to Block 70 V
 
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watch ANI embedded clip.....leave farhan.



Sir aap sahi farma rahey hein .....we had money for Jets procurement back in 2000 to 2005....but we couldn't decide....@mastankhan has already pointed out several times.
I think it was a good decision because the only option was French mirage 2000,but we went with JF-17 electronics from french which was also a good deal.But the French dumped us. Don't forget that.Went for Gripen, also denied.
 
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Modi is going to stay for next 10 years or so
So expect war in next election year 2023

Good luck to the Indian economy if he stays for the next 10 years. The only winners are Ambanis.

Its all about preparatory work for war..the reason why sudden eagerness on weapons sytem

It is quite possible that there would be war. Modis arming patterns and political behaviour is similar to the WWI and WWII belligerents.

Their goal will be a quick short decisive air dominance obtained by IAF over PAF

That would immediately cross our nuclear threshold. If one, two, or all three armed services cease to exist or are put in a position where they are no longer able to function effectively we would most definitely go 'ballistic.'

A second option is naval blockade but for that the prerequisite is quick air dominance othweise any such attempt will lead to sinking of IN ships

This is something we should have been looking into in the past two or three decades. The amount of attention paid to the PN is ludicrous. PN's bravery during the 1965 war was only second to that of PAF. But instead of commending it the service was thrown under the bus immediately after the war. Now we are looking at a service that can be immediately overwhelmed by IN with its current fleet levels. It's for the first time that PN is getting first-hand surface ships instead of obsolete second-hand British or American ships. But we still have a long way to go. We can have PLAAN establish itself in the Arabian Sea to prevent any sort of a blockade. But that reminds me of Task Force 74 of the US Navy's 7th fleet. Nothing came of it. Our best bet thus is classical maneuvering in a manner that such blockade would lead to the closure of Strait of Hormuz, thereby cutting off India's own trade and oil supply from the Middle East and also invite immediate international intervention.

In the case of naval force depletion ... well ... we go 'ballistic.'

So all hands on deck for IAF
The recent comitment for another 36 rafales speeding up of mirages upgrade along with finalizing the LCA suit

I am looking at the next 10 to 15 years at least for maturing of this. Rafales would a major threat (perceived) in the mid to long run and we shouldn't be taking them lightly. LCA, however, is neither here nor there unless we see something definite. IAF doesn't seem too keen on the machine. Most of the weapons have not yet been integrated on to the current versions of the aircraft, the price difference between MK1 and MK1A has increased exponentially. Going by this MK2 would be even more expensive yet relatively underpowered compared to IAF's future second-tier aircraft like Mirage-2000 and MiG-29.

It will be fool to under estimate this willingness

What happened in feb was a simple miscalculation by IAF wont happen again

After modi winning it should have been placed alarm bells and military should seriously look at beefing airdefense and airforce

Alarm bells, drums, shooting, and shouting, etc ... all might have gone off. But we have to look into our pockets. But, indeed, if there is one sector that we need to look into on an emergency basis its the air-defense, both in terms of capability/technology and doctrine/usage.
 
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Modi is going to stay for next 10 years or so
So expect war in next election year 2023

Its all about preparatory work for war..the reason why sudden eagerness on weapons sytem

Their goal will be a quick short decisive air dominance obtained by IAF over PAF

A second option is naval blockade but for that the prerequisite is quick air dominance othweise any such attempt will lead to sinking of IN ships

So all hands on deck for IAF
The recent comitment for another 36 rafales speeding up of mirages upgrade along with finalizing the LCA suit

It will be fool to under estimate this willingness

What happened in feb was a simple miscalculation by IAF wont happen again

After modi winning it should have been placed alarm bells and military should seriously look at beefing airdefense and airforce

After getting beaten up by Pakistan in 1965 India came well prepared in 1971 after just six years, so now we should also prepare ourselves for internal and external threat.
 
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This is something we should have been looking into in the past two or three decades. The amount of attention paid to the PN is ludicrous. PN's bravery during the 1965 war was only second to that of PAF. But instead of commending it the service was thrown under the bus immediately after the war. Now we are looking at a service that can be immediately overwhelmed by IN with its current fleet levels. It's for the first time that PN is getting first-hand surface ships instead of obsolete second-hand British or American ships. But we still have a long way to go. We can have PLAAN establish itself in the Arabian Sea to prevent any sort of a blockade. But that reminds me of Task Force 74 of the US Navy's 7th fleet. Nothing came of it. Our best bet thus is classical maneuvering in a manner that such blockade would lead to the closure of Strait of Hormuz, thereby cutting off India's own trade and oil supply from the Middle East and also invite immediate international intervention.
Indeed, Ayub Khan the Great used to say that the time of navies and ships is gone, and used to call warships "pregnant ducks". all modernization plans were either scrapped or not put into action. we had to pay a very heavy price for that neglect in 71.
 
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Went for Gripen, also denied.

Gripen would have been like buying F-16. You would be subject to American approval as it was - and still is - using American avionics, weapon systems, and the Volvo engine derived from GE F404. Today Gripen is integrated with European weapon systems and its avionics can perhaps be substituted with European ones as well, but the engine would remain a bit iffy. The Americans would always counter such deals with their F-16s. In the end, we would be left with watching 'paint dry' on the wall.
 
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Gripen would have been like buying F-16. You would be subject to American approval as it was - and still is - using American avionics, weapon systems, and the Volvo engine derived from GE F404. Today Gripen is integrated with European weapon systems and its avionics can perhaps be substituted with European ones as well, but the engine would remain a bit iffy. The Americans would always counter such deals with their F-16s. In the end, we would be left with watching 'paint dry' on the wall.

Gripen can be customized as per customer needs and European engines are available if customer wants.
 
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i think afganistan is no direct threat to u.s,their major threat is china and to contain china they need india,that is why they are staying in afghanisan on indian request and ended talks with taliban,u.s not need us more than india that is why they are more inclined towards india
Containing China via India has already shown the failure (Kung-fu kick, 02-27 etc.)!!! It has to be a direct involvement of the USA with her own assets in far away lands...
 
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