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PAF CAS confirmed the SU-30MKI kill in addition to MiG-21 Bison - Alan Warnes

descalation sir

If anything that would have served as the ultimate deescalation. The IAF was rendered irrelevant and the release of the footage would have incurred incurable psychological damage on the psyche of the Indian leadership & Air Force. The only thing that the feb 27th events exposed was the utter antiquity of Pakistan military’s information wing.
 
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If the HUD confirmation of the kill exists and PAF hasn’t released it, then it’s a serious mishap. Not only would a visual confirmation neutered IAF’s insistence of no Su-30 down, it would also have been a massive marketing for JF-17 sales.
I think the people who need to know will know. PAF has reasons for not openly declaring the kill. Lets leave it at that. JFT currently is being aggressively marketed to a couple of countries. Lets see what comes out of it.
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I think the people who need to know will know. PAF has reasons for not openly declaring the kill. Lets leave it at that. JFT currently is being aggressively marketed to a couple of countries. Lets see what comes out of it.
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This line of thinking is what’s problematic. Pakistan can’t on one hand claim to have shot down an SU-30 and on the other hand hide evidence. This places you in the same category as India and her F-16 shenanigans.
 
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If anything that would have served as the ultimate deescalation. The IAF was rendered irrelevant and the release of the footage would have incurred incurable psychological damage on the psyche of the Indian leadership & Air Force. The only thing that the feb 27th events exposed was the utter antiquity of Pakistan military’s information wing.

This is what a lot of us have been saying all along. But the military thinks it knows all about propaganda. They are continuing to parrot old colonial era SOPs.

In HUD Patch Height is Dead giveaway!
Where have you been Tall Guy? How are the *ahem ahem* car sales in Africa?
 
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Just a little correction to your statement, and yes every sane person believes that Thunder is quite capable of fighting and coming on top of SU30MKI's. and proof is in the pudding

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F-16B Serial 606 claimed the mysterious Sukhoi kill. With a squadron leader at the controls along with an air vice marshal in the back seat.
 
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This is what a lot of us have been saying all along. But the military thinks it knows all about propaganda. They are continuing to parrot old colonial era SOPs.


Where have you been Tall Guy? How are the *ahem ahem* car sales in Africa?

Historically, drastic change is resisted the fear of unknown - 2 Kills and a helicopter was known territory because of Kargil..military knew what Indians can take and what would be calculated response...if they had openly claimed the decimation. response could be unknown...thats my take on it...although i vehemently disagree with this approach.

money is always problem while selling cars in Africa these days - while doing so i found out that we have 2 warriors who have more then 1 kill to there credit...

:)

If the HUD confirmation of the kill exists and PAF hasn’t released it, then it’s a serious mishap. Not only would a visual confirmation neutered IAF’s insistence of no Su-30 down, it would also have been a massive marketing for JF-17 sales.

I can assure you HUD confirmation of Kill exist of MiG-21BISON and hit is observed in it.
 
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Historically, drastic change is resisted the fear of unknown - 2 Kills and a helicopter was known territory because of Kargil..military knew what Indians can take and what would be calculated response...if they had openly claimed the decimation. response could be unknown...thats my take on it...although i vehemently disagree with this approach.

money is always problem while selling cars in Africa these days - while doing so i found out that we have 2 warriors who have more then 1 kill to there credit...
are you still stand with your crap theories of downing of 8 IAF jets @TheTallGuy
 
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Historically, drastic change is resisted the fear of unknown - 2 Kills and a helicopter was known territory because of Kargil..military knew what Indians can take and what would be calculated response...if they had openly claimed the decimation. response could be unknown...thats my take on it...although i vehemently disagree with this approach.

money is always problem while selling cars in Africa these days - while doing so i found out that we have 2 warriors who have more then 1 kill to there credit...

:)



I can assure you HUD confirmation of Kill exist of MiG-21BISON and hit is observed in it.

So Tall Guy, you are finally tacitly admitting you have links to the PAF - ahem - through your car salesmanship in AFRICA.

I believe what you are saying, and I am sure you're keeping cover for very good reasons.
 
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Baseless, how about mishap, technical fault, friendly fire incidents just like they did with their MI-17 @TheTallGuy :-)

Brother, 8 kills scored fired and hit!

So Tall Guy, you are finally tacitly admitting you have links to the PAF - ahem - through your car salesmanship in AFRICA.

I believe what you are saying, and I am sure you're keeping cover for very good reasons.

No @Armchair i am not a military man..could you believe with oath i would have taken and telling you openly..would get me to Court Marshall ASAP!

actualy i get the information from a friend who is a friend of somebody who is in service :)

I sell cars in africa..its the truth i do not lie..

By the way Hats off to PAF for professionalism and discipline...you have to give it them...keeping quite/mum about about it at organizational level...is quite a feet!
 
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Osama was not in Pakistan according to Pakistanis mullah omar was not in Pakistan according to Pakistanis Kargil and 1965 was a win according to to them but CPEC is for development according to Pakistanis.

Why debate Indians ?
 
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In your horrible nightmares @TheTallGuy :hitwall::hitwall::crazy::crazy::crazy:

Its ok! do not be angry and frustrated with me..please!

Osama was not in Pakistan according to Pakistanis mullah omar was not in Pakistan according to Pakistanis Kargil and 1965 was a win according to to them but CPEC is for development according to Pakistanis.

Why debate Indians ?

Sialkot airport is closed these days ..i think runway is getting repaired ..it is one of the longest runway in Pakistan. :)
 
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My guess is the Iranians sent fighters to the Pak border not out of ill will but because they were confused what was happening. The EW was perhaps so powerful that their radars were effected.

Brother, 8 kills scored fired and hit!



No @Armchair i am not a military man..could you believe with oath i would have taken and telling you openly..would get me to Court Marshall ASAP!

actualy i get the information from a friend who is a friend of somebody who is in service :)

I sell cars in africa..its the truth i do not lie..

By the way Hats off to PAF for professionalism and discipline...you have to give it them...keeping quite/mum about about it at organizational level...is quite a feet!


It would be hard for them to catch you in Johannesburg.
 
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