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JF-17 has consecutive six day performance schedule for 10 minutes on each day, throughout the show. Waiting for video from now on.
PAF at Zuhai Airshow 2016
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JF-17 has consecutive six day performance schedule for 10 minutes on each day, throughout the show. Waiting for video from now on.
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PAF JF-17 beautiful performance at Zhuhai Air show.
Credit goes to Pakistan Armed Forces youtube channel.
Enjoy.
Vertical Takeoff
Credit goes to Pakistan Armed Forces youtube channel.
Enjoy.
Vertical Takeoff
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This little thing is getting lethal day by day........atlast something for PAF embargo free....home made..
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yep still a lot to come, keep seated
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JF-17 is home made, sugar free, high at fiber and ready to cause constipation to its enemies. Doctor PAF has recommended it for people with Surgical Dreams Syndrome. Dosage is on need basis and a single shot makes the patient $hitting in their pants multiple times.
Warning: over dosage can cause permanent disability.
Warning: over dosage can cause permanent disability.
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@anybody if u wanna make thread on it
Something is always given away in the thunder turn.. in case anyone noticed @Dazzler @Horus @Manticore @JamD @Bilal Khan 777 @ghazi768 .. Even though most pilots arent told to do BFM type maneuvers below 5k; that is "incrementally" better than F-16 territory in the horizontal. The Jf-17 is a energy fighter like few others and I am sure I may never see them, but I would love to see its Ps curves.
"The lines going from lower left to upper right are turn radius in feet. The lines curving down from top left to lower right are G (load factor). The dark and dashed lines that go up from lower left, peak in the middle, and then descend down the right side are the aircraft performance envelope. The left most dark line is the lift-limit line describing the maximum aerodynamic performance of the jet. The upper right descending line is the G-limit line (notice just over 9 Gs). The lines in between are called P-Sub-S lines (Ps) and describe the energy sustained or lost for the given airspeed and G with solid lines indicating Positive Ps (gaining energy) and the dashed lines indicating Negative Ps (losing energy). The bottom scale is obvious as Mach and CAS. The left scale is turn rate in degrees per second"
Now there is no doubt that other fighters may have much better nose turn rates which will show up as G/aero spikes at high turn rates; but you will also see higher negative Ps. Which means that those fighters can pull one good turn and then they are sitting ducks; delta's like the M2k have this problem and even the Superhornet and flanker series to an extent. Basically, these fighters look at one great area of performance.. but once they leave that sweet spot due to G/speed.. they are sitting ducks. The EF and Rafale try to compensate for this using their canard configuration which essentially acts as a limited to them leaving their sweet spot.
The Mig-29 is an exception as it has much less drag than its bigger cousin and is a very good energy fighter.
Both the F-16 and JF-17 instead focus on having a much wider if not that impressive sweet spot. The simple delta can try to shoot off a single impressive HOBS shot, but there is always a chance that the initial shot does not connect; and that is where a well flown JF-17 or F-16 will kill you.
"The lines going from lower left to upper right are turn radius in feet. The lines curving down from top left to lower right are G (load factor). The dark and dashed lines that go up from lower left, peak in the middle, and then descend down the right side are the aircraft performance envelope. The left most dark line is the lift-limit line describing the maximum aerodynamic performance of the jet. The upper right descending line is the G-limit line (notice just over 9 Gs). The lines in between are called P-Sub-S lines (Ps) and describe the energy sustained or lost for the given airspeed and G with solid lines indicating Positive Ps (gaining energy) and the dashed lines indicating Negative Ps (losing energy). The bottom scale is obvious as Mach and CAS. The left scale is turn rate in degrees per second"
Now there is no doubt that other fighters may have much better nose turn rates which will show up as G/aero spikes at high turn rates; but you will also see higher negative Ps. Which means that those fighters can pull one good turn and then they are sitting ducks; delta's like the M2k have this problem and even the Superhornet and flanker series to an extent. Basically, these fighters look at one great area of performance.. but once they leave that sweet spot due to G/speed.. they are sitting ducks. The EF and Rafale try to compensate for this using their canard configuration which essentially acts as a limited to them leaving their sweet spot.
The Mig-29 is an exception as it has much less drag than its bigger cousin and is a very good energy fighter.
Both the F-16 and JF-17 instead focus on having a much wider if not that impressive sweet spot. The simple delta can try to shoot off a single impressive HOBS shot, but there is always a chance that the initial shot does not connect; and that is where a well flown JF-17 or F-16 will kill you.
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One thing, I must say. At least our PTV cameraman are much better than these Chinese ones. 
One thing, I must say. At least our PTV cameraman are much better than these Chinese ones.
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