PAF Air Chief Visits Qatar

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Interesting Turkey and Qatar are chosen on farewell tour and not Saudi where PAF has very strong relationship....

PAF also has strong relationship in other Gulf countries e.g Jordan or other countries like Nigeria or China. He doesn't have to to visit all of them.
But yea, a visit to KSA wouldn't be bad.

 

[Yasser76]

PAF also has strong relationship in other Gulf countries e.g Jordan or other countries like Nigeria or China. He doesn't have to to visit all of them.
But yea, a visit to KSA wouldn't be bad.

Agreed, but Qatar is a strange choice, simply because not just the small size but also Qatar ACM was in Pakistan 2 months back, CJCS was in Qatar last month and we carried out joint air exercise in Feb last year. Really feel something is up....

 

[araz]

Agreed, but Qatar is a strange choice, simply because not just the small size but also Qatar ACM was in Pakistan 2 months back, CJCS was in Qatar last month and we carried out joint air exercise in Feb last year. Really feel something is up....

Most likely training opportunities which might be cheaper for Qatar than getting instructors from US/UK. Qatar has assumed quite a central place in Pak calculus for unknown reasons. However it cannot all be bad. Something good has to come Pakistan's way.
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[Yasser76]

Most likely training opportunities which might be cheaper for Qatar than getting instructors from US/UK. Qatar has assumed quite a central place in Pak calculus for unknown reasons. However it cannot all be bad. Something good has to come Pakistan's way.
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Yes, seems more than just raining I would think, already we have joint exercises, sold them Super Mush and train their cadet pilots. Right now with inducting Rafale, Typhoon and F-15Q Qatar simply do not require JF-17 and doubt they have the number of pilots.

I suspect what maybe the case and what you may be referring to is that over the next 3-4 years Qatar will go from needing just 15-18 trained pilots for it's small fleet of 9 12 Mirage 2000s to needing 150-180 pilots for its up coming combined fleet of 100 F-15s, Rafales, Typhoons.

I can tell you now it will be physically impossible for obtain that many pilots from the Qatari national (Citizens) population, and even if you physically could, many may not want to. I suspect you will see quite a few PAF pilots in Qatar....

 

[The Eagle]

Agreed, but Qatar is a strange choice, simply because not just the small size but also Qatar ACM was in Pakistan 2 months back, CJCS was in Qatar last month and we carried out joint air exercise in Feb last year. Really feel something is up....

No visit is ever a farewell by the top hierarchy such as CAS or COAS or CN.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[nomi007]

May be to discuss 2nd round of air exercise

 

[mingle]

Not quite actually as I'm not sure about his current schedule, just last time when he was in Qatar, he passed by Bahrain for a short work related trip and met my parents for a few hours. His PSO at the time is my relative as well.

Nice was just

Yes, seems more than just raining I would think, already we have joint exercises, sold them Super Mush and train their cadet pilots. Right now with inducting Rafale, Typhoon and F-15Q Qatar simply do not require JF-17 and doubt they have the number of pilots.

I suspect what maybe the case and what you may be referring to is that over the next 3-4 years Qatar will go from needing just 15-18 trained pilots for it's small fleet of 9 12 Mirage 2000s to needing 150-180 pilots for its up coming combined fleet of 100 F-15s, Rafales, Typhoons.

I can tell you now it will be physically impossible for obtain that many pilots from the Qatari national (Citizens) population, and even if you physically could, many may not want to. I suspect you will see quite a few PAF pilots in Qatar....

But would France UK US will be ok with that PAF pilots flying theior Hightech jets??

 

[Yasser76]

Nice was just

But would France UK US will be ok with that PAF pilots flying theior Hightech jets??

Unsure why they would not be. Besides, Qatar could of made it a condition of sale, as they certainly would not have enough Qataris.

 

[Raider 21]

Yes, seems more than just raining I would think, already we have joint exercises, sold them Super Mush and train their cadet pilots. Right now with inducting Rafale, Typhoon and F-15Q Qatar simply do not require JF-17 and doubt they have the number of pilots.

I suspect what maybe the case and what you may be referring to is that over the next 3-4 years Qatar will go from needing just 15-18 trained pilots for it's small fleet of 9 12 Mirage 2000s to needing 150-180 pilots for its up coming combined fleet of 100 F-15s, Rafales, Typhoons.

I can tell you now it will be physically impossible for obtain that many pilots from the Qatari national (Citizens) population, and even if you physically could, many may not want to. I suspect you will see quite a few PAF pilots in Qatar....

PAF fighter pilots will not be flying Rafales, Typhoons and Strike Eagles. Even if Qataris are low on pilots for now. They do have some Pakistanis on staff as civilians and some on deputation at their air force academy. But that's about it, none will be posted to fly fighters.

A good number of Qataris are getting trained on T-38s with USAF as part of their UPT.

Nice was just

But would France UK US will be ok with that PAF pilots flying theior Hightech jets??

None will be OK with Pakistanis or anyone else either. It is not just a Pakistani thing. They want their own people to have jobs and rightly so.

Most likely training opportunities which might be cheaper for Qatar than getting instructors from US/UK. Qatar has assumed quite a central place in Pak calculus for unknown reasons. However it cannot all be bad. Something good has to come Pakistan's way.
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Pakistanis ask for high contracts as well when they are looking for contract work as IPs.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Qatar will have its pilots trained in all three countries. On top of that, its a mistake to assume all of their jets will be flying at the same time. They might as well keep some in storage or in reserve while slowly increasing their pilot ranks. A lot of their instructors might also be from the same countries they are buying jets from, which makes sense. I can't imagine any scenario where PAF pilots would be flying their new jets.

 

[Yasser76]

Qatar will have its pilots trained in all three countries. On top of that, its a mistake to assume all of their jets will be flying at the same time. They might as well keep some in storage or in reserve while slowly increasing their pilot ranks. A lot of their instructors might also be from the same countries they are buying jets from, which makes sense. I can't imagine any scenario where PAF pilots would be flying their new jets.

Well it has happened in the recent past with Mirage F-1 and Mirage 2000

 

[Raider 21]

Well it has happened in the recent past with Mirage F-1 and Mirage 2000

Mirage 2000 is a negative. Mirage F1 was a different time

 

[I S I]

Not quite actually as I'm not sure about his current schedule, just last time when he was in Qatar, he passed by Bahrain for a short work related trip and met my parents for a few hours.

Flex level over 9000

 

[Yasser76]

Mirage 2000 is a negative. Mirage F1 was a different time

OK, 100% certain we flew Mirage 2000s and still do to this day, but lets move on.