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This is unbelievably sad 
May Allah grant you Heaven, Gentlemen
May Allah grant you Heaven, Gentlemen
PA Helicopter crashes near Lasbela - Passenger list includes senior officers leading flood relief effort
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Hi,
Many a years ago---I saw a documentary done by BBC---why do drivers---during fog conditions speed up relative to driving conditions.
The result they came up was that limited visibility gave them a false sense of security and they sped up.
For Kobe Bryant---his pilot was in a foggy condition---did not know the altitude of the terrain---did not have a terrain warning equipment---sped up and smashed into the side of a mountain.
Just like the Paf's air chief aircraft smashed into a mountainside by an ignorant pilot.
The 2nd and 3rd case were pilot's fault.
This one we donot know if the pilot warned his boss.
Are pak military pilots YESSIR pilots or they can tell their officer---conditions not worthy of flying..
The more important question would be---are the Generals trained to accept the flying related decision of the Major / captain ranked pilots?
Many a years ago---I saw a documentary done by BBC---why do drivers---during fog conditions speed up relative to driving conditions.
The result they came up was that limited visibility gave them a false sense of security and they sped up.
For Kobe Bryant---his pilot was in a foggy condition---did not know the altitude of the terrain---did not have a terrain warning equipment---sped up and smashed into the side of a mountain.
Just like the Paf's air chief aircraft smashed into a mountainside by an ignorant pilot.
The 2nd and 3rd case were pilot's fault.
This one we donot know if the pilot warned his boss.
Are pak military pilots YESSIR pilots or they can tell their officer---conditions not worthy of flying..
The more important question would be---are the Generals trained to accept the flying related decision of the Major / captain ranked pilots?
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Because........
It depends on requirements - if the PA had requirements it created around a particular budget then they would also have limitations based on those requirements.
If you cross those limits(which is an assumption at this point ) then consequences happen
It is an important aspect of Pakistani culture
A US heli pilot can tell a 2 star to sit back down because its not safe , but because that 2 star too has the safety and(more importantly) trust culture part of his upbringing/training as well he will accept it and mould his plans accordingly.
Can this happen in Pakistan - I cannot speak for exact military culture but the ability to speak up(even when the case shown here seems he was dismissed) is important.
However, there is also a situation within the military mindset and it goes beyond Pakistan to not question the superior officers orders if it starts bordering on insult or insubordination.
This is still all an assumption based upon the idea they knew the weather was crossing safety lines parameters and still chose to fly
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Yes sir culture is dangerous in every organisation and in every situation. Bosses not ready to accept the difference of opinion further complicates the situation.
Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) is the role model for the leaders and all Muslims. Holy Prophet used to ask suggestions from his companion before taking any decision. Everyone should promote culture of "Mashwara" while taking private as well as professional decision.
I think the weather was fine when they took off towards the unfortunate place of Heli Crash. But I don't know the capability of these Heli. Do they have capability to predict clouds/ bad weather conditions in enroute when a boss tells his pilot jut 10 min before take off to change the route and visit some particular place before going to the predefined destination.
This is hypothetical situation. I think Heli should have the capability to predict enroute weather conditions or there should have mechanisms to check and get enroute weather clearence before changing predefined route or destination.
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Baloch Insurgents Claim Responsibility for Shooting Down 'Low-Flying' Pakistani Military Chopper
09:04 GMT 03.08.2022
© AFP 2022 / ABDUL MAJEED
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Balochistan has witnessed a decades-long insurgency, as armed ethnic secessionists have been advocating for independence. Pakistan's largest province borders the Arabian Sea coast, Iran and Afghanistan and has huge reserves of gold, copper and natural gas, making it economically and strategically important.
An insurgent group advocating for the "liberation" of Balochistan from Pakistan has claimed that its fighters shot down a “low-flying” Pakistani military chopper which crashed on August 1 while carrying out relief operations in the flood-ravaged province.
Baloch Khan, the spokesperson of Baloch Raaji Aajoi Sangar (BRAS), said in a statement on Tuesday evening that the group’s fighters shot down the aircraft with anti-aircraft guns, following which it got “badly damaged” and ultimately crashed in the province’s Lasbela District.
Six Pakistani soldiers, including a Corp-commander level officer and the Director General of Pakistan’s Coast Guard, have been killed in the incident, the group has claimed.
Khan alleged that Lieutenant General Sarfaraz Ali, the Corp Commander killed in the crash, was “directly involved in enforced disappearances and the Baloch genocide.”
Encounters between Baloch militants and Pakistani forces are rather a regular affair in the province, with casualties inflicted on both sides.
The last encounter in the province was reported on July 29, as per a statement from Pakistani military’s media wing, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).
Baloch rights groups have accused Pakistani forces of kidnappings and the torture of thousands of residents who the state believes are sympathetic to the cause of independence.
The militant group further claimed that “accepting responsibility for the attack was delayed to ensure protection” for the insurgents involved in the attack.
He said that all the insurgents who brought down the military chopper have “successfully reached their secure locations.”
The BLAS has also vowed to continue its attacks against the Pakistani military till it achieves its aim of liberating the province from Islamabad.
The statement from BLAS came hours after the Pakistani military claimed in an official statement that the helicopter crash had taken place due to “bad weather” while carrying out flood relief operations.
Since last month, Balochistan has been grappling with heavy rainfall and flooding that has caused deaths and extensive damage.
The Provincial Disaster Management Authority of Balochistan said this week that at least 136 people died and over 70 have been injured due to various flood-related incidents in the region, according to state broadcaster Radio Pakistan.
The agency has also said that nearly 14,000 houses across the province “collapsed” or were left “partially damaged” due to heavy rains and flooding.
More than 600 kilometers of highways have also been “severely affected” in Balochistan.
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Obviously a fake account.
Diplomatic accounts are verified
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Our so called disciplined army just train the soldiers to say yes and obey the masters aka generals for their own needs, for them a JCO is nothing more than a batman. MAybe accept few handful majority is crrupt to the core waiting for an opportunity to exploit.
Bhaktoras trying every avenue to fit their liesBaloch Insurgents Claim Responsibility for Shooting Down 'Low-Flying' Pakistani Military Chopper
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Balochistan has witnessed a decades-long insurgency, as armed ethnic secessionists have been advocating for independence. Pakistan's largest province borders the Arabian Sea coast, Iran and Afghanistan and has huge reserves of gold, copper and natural gas, making it economically and strategically important.
An insurgent group advocating for the "liberation" of Balochistan from Pakistan has claimed that its fighters shot down a “low-flying” Pakistani military chopper which crashed on August 1 while carrying out relief operations in the flood-ravaged province.
Baloch Khan, the spokesperson of Baloch Raaji Aajoi Sangar (BRAS), said in a statement on Tuesday evening that the group’s fighters shot down the aircraft with anti-aircraft guns, following which it got “badly damaged” and ultimately crashed in the province’s Lasbela District.
Six Pakistani soldiers, including a Corp-commander level officer and the Director General of Pakistan’s Coast Guard, have been killed in the incident, the group has claimed.
Khan alleged that Lieutenant General Sarfaraz Ali, the Corp Commander killed in the crash, was “directly involved in enforced disappearances and the Baloch genocide.”
Encounters between Baloch militants and Pakistani forces are rather a regular affair in the province, with casualties inflicted on both sides.
The last encounter in the province was reported on July 29, as per a statement from Pakistani military’s media wing, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).
Baloch rights groups have accused Pakistani forces of kidnappings and the torture of thousands of residents who the state believes are sympathetic to the cause of independence.
The militant group further claimed that “accepting responsibility for the attack was delayed to ensure protection” for the insurgents involved in the attack.
He said that all the insurgents who brought down the military chopper have “successfully reached their secure locations.”
The BLAS has also vowed to continue its attacks against the Pakistani military till it achieves its aim of liberating the province from Islamabad.
The statement from BLAS came hours after the Pakistani military claimed in an official statement that the helicopter crash had taken place due to “bad weather” while carrying out flood relief operations.
Since last month, Balochistan has been grappling with heavy rainfall and flooding that has caused deaths and extensive damage.
The Provincial Disaster Management Authority of Balochistan said this week that at least 136 people died and over 70 have been injured due to various flood-related incidents in the region, according to state broadcaster Radio Pakistan.
The agency has also said that nearly 14,000 houses across the province “collapsed” or were left “partially damaged” due to heavy rains and flooding.
More than 600 kilometers of highways have also been “severely affected” in Balochistan.
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Baloch KhanBaloch Insurgents Claim Responsibility for Shooting Down 'Low-Flying' Pakistani Military Chopper
09:04 GMT 03.08.2022
© AFP 2022 / ABDUL MAJEED
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Balochistan has witnessed a decades-long insurgency, as armed ethnic secessionists have been advocating for independence. Pakistan's largest province borders the Arabian Sea coast, Iran and Afghanistan and has huge reserves of gold, copper and natural gas, making it economically and strategically important.
An insurgent group advocating for the "liberation" of Balochistan from Pakistan has claimed that its fighters shot down a “low-flying” Pakistani military chopper which crashed on August 1 while carrying out relief operations in the flood-ravaged province.
Baloch Khan, the spokesperson of Baloch Raaji Aajoi Sangar (BRAS), said in a statement on Tuesday evening that the group’s fighters shot down the aircraft with anti-aircraft guns, following which it got “badly damaged” and ultimately crashed in the province’s Lasbela District.
Six Pakistani soldiers, including a Corp-commander level officer and the Director General of Pakistan’s Coast Guard, have been killed in the incident, the group has claimed.
Khan alleged that Lieutenant General Sarfaraz Ali, the Corp Commander killed in the crash, was “directly involved in enforced disappearances and the Baloch genocide.”
Encounters between Baloch militants and Pakistani forces are rather a regular affair in the province, with casualties inflicted on both sides.
The last encounter in the province was reported on July 29, as per a statement from Pakistani military’s media wing, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).
Baloch rights groups have accused Pakistani forces of kidnappings and the torture of thousands of residents who the state believes are sympathetic to the cause of independence.
The militant group further claimed that “accepting responsibility for the attack was delayed to ensure protection” for the insurgents involved in the attack.
He said that all the insurgents who brought down the military chopper have “successfully reached their secure locations.”
The BLAS has also vowed to continue its attacks against the Pakistani military till it achieves its aim of liberating the province from Islamabad.
The statement from BLAS came hours after the Pakistani military claimed in an official statement that the helicopter crash had taken place due to “bad weather” while carrying out flood relief operations.
Since last month, Balochistan has been grappling with heavy rainfall and flooding that has caused deaths and extensive damage.
The Provincial Disaster Management Authority of Balochistan said this week that at least 136 people died and over 70 have been injured due to various flood-related incidents in the region, according to state broadcaster Radio Pakistan.
The agency has also said that nearly 14,000 houses across the province “collapsed” or were left “partially damaged” due to heavy rains and flooding.
More than 600 kilometers of highways have also been “severely affected” in Balochistan.
Whats next Sindh Sain and Chaudhary Punjab?
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It seems that this diplomatic fake account is similar to the Oma Hareem account which comes with news, and then when they disappear no one is able to trace their account. Wrong or fake, somebody is trying to give some kind of message, whether it is wrong or fake. It is my opinion that the nation as a whole is very intelligent and very capable of deciphering what is going on, and it would not be easy to fool them as it was back in 1990.
This hero give us clear vision what is going on ....
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Crying is how your heart speaks, when your lips can't explain the pain you feel,
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Remember our 6 Heroes Martyred in the helicopter crash in Balochistan during your prayers ...
Crying is how your heart speaks, when your lips can't explain the pain you feel,
Jumma Mubarak
Remember our 6 Heroes Martyred in the helicopter crash in Balochistan during your prayers ...
