Outsiders shouldn't obstruct elections in Bangladesh: PM Hasina warns in New York

[IndianLite]

Realistically I don't think Bangladesh army will stage a direct coup ever again. For one, they will not risk losing the lucrative UN missions. And two - army top brass has been replaced with Hasina loyalists. Unless there is foreign interference and backing, junior officers will not stage any coup.

Personally I hope there is no military coup. Let Hasina lose in a free and fair election. Let the people of the country show her the way out.

There will not be free and fair elections until 2030.

Please wait another 5 years.

BD needs to ditch parliamentary system and go for French style presidential system.

 

[leonblack08]

There will not be free and fair elections until 2030.

Please wait another 5 years.

BD needs to ditch parliamentary system and go for French style presidential system.

I am giving you the benefit of doubt and assuming you actually do want good for Bangladesh. The problem is, by the next 5 years, Hasina's lackeys and her party men will suck all the wealth out of Bangladesh. Whatever good progress that had been made in her tenure, will be undone due to unchecked corruption.

Do you really want to wait another 5 years to see it actually become reality?

If opposition comes to power, things will not improve drastically, but it will put a break on the rampant corruption by the BAL. That will give Bangladeshis a much needed respite.

As for getting rid of parliamentary system in favor of presidential system, completely on board with that. No argument on that.

 

[IndianLite]

I am giving you the benefit of doubt and assuming you actually do want good for Bangladesh. The problem is, by the next 5 years, Hasina's lackeys and her party men will suck all the wealth out of Bangladesh. Whatever good progress that had been made in her tenure, will be undone due to unchecked corruption.

Do you really want to wait another 5 years to see it actually become reality?

If opposition comes to power, things will not improve drastically, but it will put a break on the rampant corruption by the BAL. That will give Bangladeshis a much needed respite.

As for getting rid of parliamentary system in favor of presidential system, completely on board with that. No argument on that.

I think almost everyone on PDF Bangla has good intentions.

Problem is there are too many naive people especially the ones who see Jamatis as buffer against India!!!

Look how that worked out for Pakistan??!!

Jamatis are treacherous pigs who always turn inwards!!

Give them influence and instead of tormenting India they will torment our women folk!!!

I know too many districts level BAL leaders - they are corrupt pigs. If I could shoot them with one bullet - I would!!!

But unfortunately, only these corrupt pigs can kill and maim jamati pigs.

After 2030 - I will join you lot in hunting down BAL leaders and killing them like pigs - especially the Hinduvta pigs!!!

Living and studying in the west has taught me to be patient

 

[VikingRaider]

But if China and the US become allies (G2).

It will be great! If USA and China become allies! But the preconditions are , either USA should be one party state , or China should be a democracy! But is it even possible in dreams? I've no idea!

We all hope that the CCP will end.

Well TBH , since ccp is supporting Hasina, I also don't like it! Before I thought it's India alone backing Hasina!

Later I knew that ccp is the main antagonist of our 2018 night election!

But my question is , is it really possible to dissolve almighty ccp in China? Could you please elaborate how is it even possible?

Do you really want to wait another 5 years to see it actually become reality?

@leonblack08 Bhai , if we wait another 5 years , Hasina will literally make Bangladesh another north Korea with the help of China/ccp, and other than direct divine help , no one can save us!

 

[IndianLite]

Later I knew that ccp is the main antagonist of our 2018 night election!

You finally accept that China calls the shots in BD!

Hallelujah! Give this man a plate of pantha baath!!

BD military will never go against China.

Pro-US means being in the quad and defending India against China.

Hinduvta is angry with Hasina because Hasina is not taking an anti China stance.

Hinduvta will probably oppose Hasina at the election but it will make no difference given mighty Chinese support.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

It will be great! If USA and China become allies! But the preconditions are , either USA should be one party state , or China should be a democracy! But is it even possible in dreams? I've no idea!

Well TBH , since ccp is supporting Hasina, I also don't like it! Before I thought it's India alone backing Hasina!

Later I knew that ccp is the main antagonist of our 2018 night election!

But my question is , is it really possible to dissolve almighty ccp in China? Could you please elaborate how is it even possible?


@leonblack08 Bhai , if we wait another 5 years , Hasina will literally make Bangladesh another north Korea with the help of China/ccp, and other than direct divine help , no one can save us!

Please do not misunderstand. The question is not whether the US is willing. It's about whether China is willing.

Group of Two - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

China wants closer US relation, but not G2-official

China has gotten off to a good start with the Obama administration and wants deeper bilateral cooperation, but is not interested in a "G2" arrangement by which Beijing and Washington shape the global economy, a senior Chinese spokesman said on Friday.

www.reuters.com

 

[@blue Ocean]

I think almost everyone on PDF Bangla has good intentions.

Problem is there are too many naive people especially the ones who see Jamatis as buffer against India!!!

Look how that worked out for Pakistan??!!

Jamatis are treacherous pigs who always turn inwards!!

Give them influence and instead of tormenting India they will torment our women folk!!!

I know too many districts level BAL leaders - they are corrupt pigs. If I could shoot them with one bullet - I would!!!

But unfortunately, only these corrupt pigs can kill and maim jamati pigs.

After 2030 - I will join you lot in hunting down BAL leaders and killing them like pigs - especially the Hinduvta pigs!!!

Living and studying in the west has taught me to be patient

People live in the present and not in 2030s. Without a fair election next year bad luck will be looming over BAL and BD.

With further sanctions, BD exports will suffer. Europe will follow America. America is waging its diplomacy against China which is a kind of Cold War.

In this scenario, the American target is to surround and alienate China with hostile countries. This policy fails if Burma provides access through its land to enter the BoB.

Note also that American Congress has adopted one Burma Act.

A BD under US umbrella helps the hegemonist USA to acquire its goal. With BoB out of reach, China has only one foreign trade route thru Malacca that can easily be closed by the US any time.

I am talking not about real time war, but a scenario of Cold War. China feels threatened by this scenario and this is the reason why it needs a friendly BD.

Please note that Gwadar cannot be a substitute route. It is far away from the Chinese eastern industrial zones. A very expensive alternative.

No wonder, both America and China want BD with them. America wants a BD free election only to achieve its hegemonist goal of bottling China within its own territory.

There is no 2030s for it. It is now.

 

[IndianLite]

People live in the present and not in 2030s. Without a fair election next year bad luck will be looming over BAL and BD.

With further sanctions, BD exports will suffer. Europe will follow America. America is waging its diplomacy against China which is a kind of Cold War.

In this scenario, the American target is to surround and alienate China with hostile countries. This policy fails if Burma provides access through its land to enter the BoB.

Note also that American Congress has adopted one Burma Act.

A BD under US umbrella helps the hegemonist USA to acquire its goal. With BoB out of reach, China has only one foreign trade route thru Malacca that can easily be closed by the US any time.

I am talking not about real time war, but a scenario of Cold War. China feels threatened by this scenario and this is the reason why it needs a friendly BD.

Please note that Gwadar cannot be a substitute route. It is far away from the Chinese eastern industrial zones. A very expensive alternative.

No wonder, both America and China want BD with them. America wants a BD free election only to achieve its hegemonist goal of bottling China within its own territory.

There is no 2030s for it. It is now.

Bangladesh must stay away from the great Satan even if it means sanctions.

 

[saif]

Any military regime will face active hostility from India, China and EU.

China will welcome a military regime in Bangladesh. India won't approve it but will remain calm seeing Chinese support for the military regime. EU won't impose embargo on Bangladesh because they want Hasina out of power for good.

 

[@blue Ocean]

Bangladesh must stay away from the great Satan even if it means sanctions.

It is not that BD interest is at stake, it is the BAL interest at stake that Hasina goes after non -election and goes after one party selection.

Try to understand the difference. But, this time it is quite difficult to stay in power without a fair election. It will be starting point of economic meltdown of BD.

 

[IndianLite]

It is not that BD interest is at stake, it is the BAL interest at stake that Hasina goes after non -election and goes after one party selection.

Try to understand the difference. But, this time it is quite difficult to stay in power without a fair election. It will be starting point of economic meltdown of BD.

Tell me!

Has any of your predictions come true?

You are too emotional - it is your south Asian culture.

You don’t look at things in a cold calculated way. Your views are always clouded by emotion.

If you put your emotion about BAL and Hasina to one side…

You would see that the west doesn’t care about democracy.

Democracy is a card they use only against Muslim countries when they challenge western hegemony.

And BAL and Hasina have no intention of challenging western hegemony.

Japan and the west want Bangladesh to work with India - that suits Hasina just fine. It’s a delicate balancing act since she doesn’t want to upset the Chinese - hence the occasional outburst against Uncle Sam.

Japan and US want Bangladesh to integrate its economy with India - as a hedge against Chinese influence in BD. All Japanese investment is predicated on Bangladesh giving transit to India.

The irony is that anti BAL factions’ nightmare is the QUAD

QUAD means more engagement and entanglement with India

Military hardware alignment with India - joint exercises etc etc

China will welcome a military regime in Bangladesh. India won't approve it but will remain calm seeing Chinese support for the military regime. EU won't impose embargo on Bangladesh because they want Hasina out of power for good.

That IS just your emotion talking!!

Military regimes are always beholden to US otherwise they get sanctioned.

Look at Pakistan!!!

Imran Khan was pro China.

 

[VikingRaider]

You finally accept that China calls the shots in BD!

Well I hear it from YouTube specialists talk show! At first Dr Taj hashmi and then few others! However I heard it few months ago but didn't believe it completely , because I want action first!

When China openly ( indirectly) start speaking against democracy in Bangladesh and supporting Hasina regime , then I faced the reality!

BD military will never go against China.

You are terribly wrong buddy! Bangladesh armed forces always have a reputation of being pro west!

Other than some high officials , most of them are pro west!

However perhaps you have already heard that some high officials got visa restrictions!

USA already said that lackey media will also come under visa restriction!

Do you understand the real problem of Hasina now? If media go against her , will
she survive?

Also BAL/BCL gundas are in political alyssum in disguise if BNP Jama't or other parties will be exposed soon ; already the process has started!

Soon you will face the reality!

Pro-US means being in the quad and defending India against China.

The world isn't as easy as it looks! You always judge everything decisively ! I don't view relationship with your lense!

The world isn't black and white! No relationship is permanent!

If USA want to use India against China , I've no problem if it won't go against the interest of people of Bangladesh!

Hinduvta is angry with Hasina because Hasina is not taking an anti China stance.

That doesn't matter! It's Hasina and her lackeys consider themselves very smart and wanted to play with all powers together! Finally maybe they realized that it's not wise to wet three bed at once!

They (BAL) lost their credibility. No one in this world want a disloyal spouse or back stabber friend! Even enemies are better than them!

Also India isn't destinied to be ruled by Hindutva fascist!

I think USA will take care of them as well , and will again sincerely work for returning of true secularism in India for the sake of harmony of this region!

Hinduvta will probably oppose Hasina at the election but it will make no difference given mighty Chinese support

Hindutva really doesn't matter here since big powers are doing their best against this Chinese action!

Also Bangladeshi people don't like Hasina and BAL's popularity is terribly down than any other time since it was founded!

Hence China won't be successful and also won't be too desperate as they already has access to the bay of Bengal through Myanmar!

But USA has no other option but to get Bangladesh by her side , to challenge Chinese hegemony in the bay of Bengal!

Hence win win for both Bangladeshi Hasina's subject ( forced to become subject , hence soon to be regain their citizen status) , and USA!

 

[VikingRaider]

Bangladesh must stay away from the great Satan even if it means sanctions.

Well , in order to regain my freedom of speech , I'm very happy to make alliance with real Satan whom we call iblish!

So there is no problem of joining USA block , in order to kick out the fascist regime once and for all!

 

[saif]

So there is no problem of joining USA block , in order to kick out the fascist regime once and for all!

Once you are in USA block can you get out of it later? Military takeover is the answer. Let the military deal with Hasina. I am sure things will be alright under military rule. I am not advocating for a life long military rule....just for 5 years.

 

[VikingRaider]

Once you are in USA block can you get out of it later? Military takeover is the answer. Let the military deal with Hasina. I am sure things will be alright under military rule. I am not advocating for a life long military rule....just for 5 years.

But @saif Bhai , military is pro west! Without western back up military won't move a muscle!

You surely know that 1/11 happened because of USA and west was behind it!

The threat of not taking them to united peace keeping Mission was enough to declare emergency!

In this modern world , there is literally no independent country , we all are nominally independent!

In reality we are part of a bigger game!

So called "Friendship with all and malice to none" is not a realistic option!

You see the fate of pro China Pakistani PM Mr Imran Khan!

Bangladesh doesn't have such leader! Bangladeshi politicians are extremely corrupted and satanic in nature!

Hence a pro China govt or pro China position won't bring any good for Bangladesh other than making us slave of some people!

It's because China don't care about common people , they only care about business! And this quality is preventing China from becoming a true global leader!

As soon as China will speak for human rights and freedom of speech ( although it's highly unlikely that might CCP will ever fall) , China will gain that capabilities!

Even though such thing are propaganda and truly don't exist , still it's not immediate threat like BAL dakoos and other pro Chinese dictators.

So people have some space for breathing at least!