Our Universe May Exist in a Multiverse, Cosmic Inflation Discovery Suggests

[Pakistanisage]

The vastness of our Universe is truly amazing......

 

[Skull and Bones]

is it fair to say that universe contraction might happen in case dark matter takes over? because if i get this right, dark matter is what's holding galaxies together.

edit: I will check you response tomm's mrng...gotta sleep now.

Dark matter is another elusive field of further study, and it's futile to comment on it without further studies being done.

 

[DesiGuy]

The vastness of our Universe is truly amazing......

not just vastness...how small it can get is equally amazing.

The scale of the universe: Truly amazing.
The Scale of the Universe 2

 

[atatwolf]

Black holes have always drawn my attention

 

[drunken-monke]

@ Skull and Bones

not sure if u have come across this before...but very interesting video.

According to this, events that took in the past are not fully gone and events that will take in the future are already decided.(have happended somewhere in a different place) watched about 3 times...haven't fully grasp the concept. I wish i was smart enough to become philosopher and physicist.

I also have heard of this... the news is quite old but yes, when we get to the frontiers of science, its possible..

 

[drunken-monke]

not just vastness...how small it can get is equally amazing.

The scale of the universe: Truly amazing.
The Scale of the Universe 2

Thanked you for sharing that scale of universe...

 

[OrionHunter]

the theory makes sense when you consider universe has been expanding (also accelerating) when observed by telescope. So it makes sense to say that at one point, it started from a small point.

There have been attempts at offering a mental visualization of the spacetime expansion of the
Universe and the galaxies contained therein. For example, recall an example often used that tells of the
galaxies portrayed as ink spots on a balloon, that travel farther away from one another as the balloon is
inflated.

The problem with this example is that some galaxies are traveling away from us, while others appear
to be traveling towards us, the redshift / blueshift thesis in interpreting relationships among galaxies.

Now if inflation is taking place, (like that balloon example that scientists usually trot out) as deduced by the redshift, then how come galaxies are traveling towards us? Shouldn't all galaxies be expanding away from each other?

The balloon just got pricked with a big bang!! (Pun unintended! )

 

[ajpirzada]

Multiverse is a bogus "belief" of those who could NOT prove spontaneous origin of universe & laws of physics & life all the way to humans. Just like they kept increasing life of universe\earth bcoz previous length of time didn't seen long enough for undirected-random processes to bring about all out there. Now to make it probable for a highly fine-tuned universe to have risen out of mere chance, they are increasing number of universes. Since all established evidence goes against spontaneous origin of such fine tuned universe & let alone life all the way to humans. Like step-wise & sudden appearance of species goes against Darwinian-style "gradualism". That's why Richard Dawkins was pissed off at the idea of "punctuated equilibrium". "Punctuated equilibrium" is simply impossible with slow-undirected Darwinian-style mutation-selection crap. Sudden appearance of drastically different features demand some intelligence fiddling at certain intervals with the genome, making HUGE number of changes all at once, to produce newer viable organism.

Keep trying. Keep increasing the numbers & length of time only to get proved wrong at the end.

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Here's my "hypothesis" similar to hypothesis of multiverse >>> The only universes that exist are concentric layers outside of our universe. Layers that are like concentric spheres=layers=skies. Concentric spheres one outside the other.(.).

Inner most layer out of concentric sphere is what we know as our universe. Outside the ball of our universe, we have 6 more spheres. Inner-most sphere is the ONLY sphere that has planets\stars etc. Outer 6 spheres are probably empty spaces with a solid boundary separating it from next sphere.

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.a Sky = a Layer.​

Contents of 1st sky include:-Air around earth, Clouds, Space(Vacuum), Celestial Bodies(sun, moon, stars, galaxies, meteorites etc etc.)
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Numbers in squares = contents of the layer=sky.
Numbers in circles = surface of the layer=sky.


[Quran:67:3] He Who created the seven skies (Layers) one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (God) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: sees you any flaw?
[67:5] And we have adorned the lowest sky with Lamps, ....
[25:61] Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp(sun) and an illuminated (Moon);
[30:48] It is God Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until thou seest rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills behold, they do rejoice!-
[16:79] Do they not look at the birds, held poised in the midst of the sky? Nothing holds them up but (the power of) God. Verily in this are signs for those who believe.
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And when you travel with speed of light, time stops. And if you travel outside of the sphere that started as a result of Big-Bang or some other expansion method; you basically travel out-side of our time & space frame.



Bukhari:54:429:
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Narated By Malik bin Sasaa : The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two men. A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-Zam water and my heart was filled with wisdom and belief. Al-Buraq, a white animal, smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I set out with Gabriel. When I reached the nearest heaven(surface of the 1st layer = sky). Gabriel said to the heaven gate-keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' He said, 'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said, 'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' There I met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O son and a Prophet.' Then we ascended to the second sky. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said, 'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!" There I met Jesus (Eesa) and Yahya (John the baptist) who said, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a Prophet.' Then we ascended to the third sky. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel. 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' (The Prophet added) There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a Prophet!' Then we ascended to the 4th sky and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris and greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.' Then we ascended to the 5th sky and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. There I met and greeted Aaron (Haroon) who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet". Then we ascended to the 6th sky and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.' When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.' Then we ascended to the seventh sky and again the same questions and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House). I asked Gabriel about it and he said, This is Al Bait-ul-Ma'mur where 70,000 angels perform prayers daily and when they leave they never return to it (but always a fresh batch comes into it daily).' Then I was shown Sidrat-ul-Muntaha (i.e. a tree in the seventh heaven) and I saw its Nabk fruits which resembled the clay jugs of Hajr (i.e. a town in Arabia), and its leaves were like the ears of elephants, and four rivers originated at its root, two of them were apparent and two were hidden. I asked Gabriel about those rivers and he said, 'The two hidden rivers are in Paradise, and the apparent ones are the Nile and the Euphrates.' Then fifty prayers were enjoined on me. I descended till I met Moses who asked me, 'What have you done?' I said, 'Fifty prayers have been enjoined on me.' He said, 'I know the people better than you, because I had the hardest experience to bring Bani Israel to obedience. Your followers cannot put up with such obligation. So, return to your Lord and request Him (to reduce the number of prayers.' I returned and requested Allah (for reduction) and He made it forty. I returned and (met Moses) and had a similar discussion, and then returned again to Allah for reduction and He made it thirty, then twenty, then ten, and then I came to Moses who repeated the same advice. Ultimately Allah reduced it to five. When I came to Moses again, he said, 'What have you done?' I said, 'Allah has made it five only.' He repeated the same advice but I said that I surrendered (to Allah's Final Order)'" Allah's Apostle was addressed by Allah, "I have decreed My Obligation and have reduced the burden on My slaves, and I shall reward a single good deed as if it were ten good deeds."

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what if 'one above the other' means dimensions such that one universe laid over the other and God encompassing all of them? I always find it hard to grasp the concept of 'one above the other' in terms of distance since that will imply that God is restricted to space and time.

to be honestly speculative, multiverse concept makes it much easier to explain the existence of angels, human, jinns and barzakh side by side but each acting in a way which defy the physical laws of the other worlds.

otherwise, ull need angels travelling with more than speed of light to do what they are supposed to do or else you need very many worm holes to deal with this transportation issue at such high speeds. no?

 

[shiv]

Black holes have always drawn my attention

they attract everything actually ...including light so its natural they draw your attention as well

 

[DesiGuy]

There have been attempts at offering a mental visualization of the spacetime expansion of the
Universe and the galaxies contained therein. For example, recall an example often used that tells of the
galaxies portrayed as ink spots on a balloon, that travel farther away from one another as the balloon is
inflated.
The problem with this example is that some galaxies are traveling away from us, while others appear
to be traveling towards us, the redshift / blueshift thesis in interpreting relationships among galaxies.

Now if inflation is taking place, (like that balloon example that scientists usually trot out) as deduced by the redshift, then how come galaxies are traveling towards us? Shouldn't all galaxies be expanding away from each other?

The balloon just got pricked with a big bang!! (Pun unintended! )

but that's only true for galaxies that are near to us which are not lot! I am not sure but I think its due to gravity force. For example: I just did a quick google search and found out that all galaxies that appear to be moving towards us are in our local group so gravity plays main role in there..but since most galaxies are far from us, gravity doesn't work on long distances like dark matter does. hence you see planets, stars, galaxies packed together.

 

[ziaulislam]

i wounder if "human mind" is even capable of understanding the true nature and size of the universe or the multi-verse, the GOD ultimate creation

 

[Skull and Bones]

i wounder if "human mind" is even capable of understanding the true nature and size of the universe or the multi-verse, the GOD ultimate creation

It is hard if you just read one book and believe in it blindly.

 

[cyphercide]

that makes som sense....

but what if there is a possibility of the presence of oxygen and water on other worlds? you never know now do you?

The probable reason his post makes sense to you is because you know very little about the subject. It is unmitigated nonsense and I'd suggest you read up on the topic.

 

[Commander T]

sometimes i really wonder, how can such deep scientific topics be discussed in religion...........

i wounder if "human mind" is even capable of understanding the true nature and size of the universe or the multi-verse, the GOD ultimate creation

who can say that the universe is God,s ULTIMATE creation.....there can be lot more..

 

[Superboy]

Using MAY in science is bad, very bad. Scientists should never use the word MAY, especially if they are publishing something.