Our neighbour Pakistan is on the brink of collapse

[Pioneerfirst]

Pakistan is not in such a bad condition.sometimes media exagerates.It is not even all well here too.
Pakistan is victim of terrorism and now corrupt Govt is addition to all these problems

 

[krash]

and from where will this mass come from. We need an honest leader (like Jinnah) who can unite us. A role model, behind whom we can walk. .

You and me my dear sir. Lets start talking, just talking to our friends about the wrongs being committed. Not the wrongs being committed by others of which we have no part of but the wrongs we and our friends commit. Lets talk about the red lights we run, the queues we break and cut in front of, the taxes we dont pay, the way we speak to each other, the way we treat each other, the way we exploit everything, the way we cut the legs of the person standing right besides us. Lets talk about saying no to every injustice. Lets not accept any arrogance from minister's son and then lets not be arrogant towards our dad's subordinates. Lets think before we vote or support anyone. Lets start from the very basics. Lets first build some socio-ethical values in ourselves, some sense of responsibility on the very individual level or any sense for that matter. Lets first become a nation and not the crowd that we are. Lets stop being sheep....... We dont need a leader for this. In fact we need this in order to produce and then follow a good leader. Do this and you will have good leaders without asking. And the best part is we wont even have to go to the streets in the burning sun, breaking shop windows and shouting slogans.

The great Mr.Jinnah was a star that only shines once in a millenia. We got lucky that time. Now its time to take some responsibility onto ourselves. People left waiting for a savior are left forgotten. Surely we aren't that pathetic that we bum around waiting for someone else to come and fix what we have messed up? Surely we have more sense than that, more honor?

ps: Chalk and cheese is what we are from the people whom Mr.Jinnah lead.

 

[WAQAS119]

1 Feb 2002::::: MELTDOWN IN PAKISTAN by N.S. Rajaram

P.S: This is a long standing desire of our neighbors...!

 

[ashant]

Is Pakistan really on the brink of collapse? Probably not! The problem is that many a time a mountain is made out of a mole hill. One murder there and the conspiracy theorists get to work invoking all kind of bizarre stories to make it look as though Pakistan is is on the edge of disaster. Yes, there have been a number of instances of suicide blasts that have taken a horrendous toll on life and property.

But there's another side that's not even given any importance. Recently, my cousin had gone to Pakistan on a business trip. I asked him how it was considering all the negative news emanating from there of late. I was pleasantly surprised when he told be that the morale of the Pakistanis was as high as ever! There was little or no sign of all the turmoil as gleefully reported in the Indian press.

He was treated as an honored guest wherever he went (Not that he was at Ambani's level as yet!). The markets were overflowing with happy shoppers like any city in India. He was taken to the famous Old Anarkali bazaar in Lahore where he was treated to some delicious kababs. The owner refused to take any money saying that he was an honored Indian guest! He even packed some for him to gorge on later!

Most residents it seems are relatively insulated from the worst of Pakistan's problems, with the violence generally occurring over the horizon in the area near the Afghan border. They are proud of its free, open atmosphere, its tolerance, sense of fun and vibrant street life.

Pakistan doesn’t seem like it is on the precipice as reflected in most Indian and foreign media especially those so called ‘experts’ on Pakistani affairs. Yes, there are problems, but which country doesn’t have them? It may be more in Pakistan, but the atmosphere in general and the vibrant street life is far from the end-of-the-road scenarios that Pakistan baiters here would like us to believe.

Cheers!

I will vouch for your views. A few of my colleagues were in Pakistan (few months ago) to execute a telecom company's project. Things, at the ground level, seemed normal there, and they found that the street life was positively vibrant. The Indian media does us a disservice and almost never depicts the positive side of Pakistan, I wonder why they always need to show the negative side to sell. Pakistan as a nation is currently going through a negative cycle, but cycles always turn. Pakistan needs to ride the storm and focus on the economy, they have lesser challenges than India in some areas. I hope the people of Pakistan will come through for their nation...

 

[ashdoc]

editor of india today magazine , m j akbar , has written in his book ( tinderbox , the past and the future of pakistan )that pakistan is likely to remain a ' toxic jelly state ' , a source of trouble for its neighbours , but neither stabilising nor collapsing in the long run .

 

[Areesh]

1 Feb 2002::::: MELTDOWN IN PAKISTAN by N.S. Rajaram

P.S: This is a long standing desire of our neighbors...!

You should be happy that their was no Google in 1947.The result wouldn't have been different.

 

[ice_man]

Simultaneously, we must use all the soft power to convey to the people of Pakistan that we wish them well and would like to do all we can to live in peace and harmony. We must also firmly convey not only to Pakistan but also to our friends elsewhere that the line of control in Kashmir is not negotiable.

Our neighbour Pakistan is on the brink of collapse - India - DNA

All the BLA BLA BLA BLA and this is the end result?? you "wish us well" and then kashmir is non negotiable! what nonsense! please pakistan army and people are being killed by INDIAN sponsored terrorists! these bloody fanatics go around killing anyone and everyone! This is not islam so they should just spare us the BS about doing it all for "islam"! they blow up mosques as well as naval air assets! please try to explain why "islamic warriors" would try to blow up either unless and until an outside power is assisting for its own advantage!

 

[Malik Usman]

In India itself there are more than 35 separation movements going on......and Indian peoples need to think seriously about their country...not to others....did you people not seen the relly recently of Skihs in UK against your Govt....still you peoples are not opening your eyes......Now even Yesterday European Union put condition to do trade with India only if India will stop Human Rights Voilations in Kashmir....and still these peoples are talking about Pakistan.

 

[Nelson]

All the BLA BLA BLA BLA and this is the end result?? you "wish us well" and then kashmir is non negotiable! what nonsense! please pakistan army and people are being killed by INDIAN sponsored terrorists! these bloody fanatics go around killing anyone and everyone! This is not islam so they should just spare us the BS about doing it all for "islam"! they blow up mosques as well as naval air assets! please try to explain why "islamic warriors" would try to blow up either unless and until an outside power is assisting for its own advantage!

Proofs please or stop your bla bla bla bla.. Dah da da da..

 

[Donatello]

No serious astrological or analytical skills were required to predict an angry, desperate and violent terror attack after Operation Geronimo. The questions that should really be intriguing us are the choice of target and the enormous damage that the attackers inflicted, more so when al-Qaeda and the Pakistan Taliban, as a first response to the news of Osama bin Laden’skilling, had threatened savage revenge.

First, the choice of target: the Mehran naval base which was home to the Pakistani navy’s PC3 Orions. Among others, two messages stand out. One, the perpetrators do not approve of the Pakistani army’s relationship with the Americans. The second was symbolic and a reiteration of the Pakistan Taliban’s reach and brute power. There could be a third purpose: to deflect suspicion from the top brass of the army.

As a matter of fact, the series of intermittent terrorist attacks on the military allow them to profess that “we ourselves are the victims, so how could we be having anything to do with the terrorists?” It could be argued, not without reason, that this horrendous charade has been necessary to keep the tap of US aid flowing and generally keep the world somewhat deluded.
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The aftermath of Operation Geronimo exposed another theatre of pretense in Pakistan. The most telling illustration was the speech given by Pakistan PM Gilani in parliament; after all, military speech writing has a distinctive style. An Indian army colleague accurately remarked that the Pakistani army staff officer who wrote the script did an excellent job.

Clearly Zardari, Gilani and the cabinet have no authority whatsoever; they are just puppets, with Kayani and his henchmen calling all the shots.

The process of radicalisation of Pakistan and its military that began around 1971 is now fast approaching the point of implosion. Till a while ago, observers hoped that the military would eventually succeed in stemming the tide of extremism and that the game of using militant groups as strategic assets was somewhat justified. This issue now merits a closer look.

What perhaps began as tolerant accommodation has now possibly morphed into a deadly ideological alliance. The two now seem to be working in tandem to convert Pakistan into a militant Islamic state that propagates jihad and also possesses nuclear bombs.

If this were not true how does one explain the military’s inability to put a lid on the Taliban? The Pakistani army is not any rag tag outfit. It is highly professional and disciplined. If the army decides, it can effectively, erode the Taliban’s hold. Again, the ISI is largely officered by the Pakistani army. Postings to the ISI are controlled by the army. Given these parameters, it is difficult to accept the Pakistani army’s inability to rein in the ISI.

And what of Pakistani society? The reaction to the murders of Salman Taseer, the governor of Punjab, Shahbaz Bhatt, a federal minister, who raised their voices against the blasphemy laws and the reporter Syed Saleem Shahzad, who had been exposing the ISI links with the Taliban, tells all. The evidence of the nation going horribly wrong could not be more obvious when people rallied to honour the killer of Salman Taseer.Some urgent treatment appears imperative before Pakistan collapses.

Redemption lies in the hands of the people of Pakistan. The need of the hour is a JP-type national movement. We can sense the worry and apprehensions. Snowballing of these voices into a critical mass is what we should be wishing and supporting.
How should India respond to the developments in Pakistan?

We should prepare for the ‘worst case scenario’ but do all we can to avert it. Among some specifics, the first is to get our guard up and keep it there. Despite our vigil and high levels of alert a terror attack may still happen. Politically and diplomatically, the PM’s initiatives cannot be faulted.

Simultaneously, we must use all the soft power to convey to the people of Pakistan that we wish them well and would like to do all we can to live in peace and harmony. We must also firmly convey not only to Pakistan but also to our friends elsewhere that the line of control in Kashmir is not negotiable.

Our neighbour Pakistan is on the brink of collapse - India - DNA

Usual crap. The writer is writing about Pakistan's collapse and then brings in Kashmir in the last line. Nice way to write an article, jerk.

 

[Mo12]

India and China as world power should kick usa out of pakistan and help pak to recover.

 

[T-Faz]

yes since the creation of Pakistan...You guyx are claiming that Pakistan ix Collapsing...But WHat HAppened??? With the grace of ALLAH ALmighty we came out victorious everytime...We survived before n we will survive again!

PAKISTAN PAINDABAD

This is nothing to be proud of, we should create a Pakistan that does not allow anyone to question its future.

We have been continuously allowing Pakistan to drift into emergency territory which allows others to make such conclusions.

Its time to raise a country that cannot and will not have any negative dimensions.

Btw, that x replacing s in your post is very annoying.

 

[Mo12]

Different people here have different definitions of collapse to be honest, so its subjective,

 

[IND151]

Pakistan needs a good leader and one who has good control over army; one who is ready to devote himself to solve insurgency problem in Pakistan.

in other words Pakistan needs a leader who clever as Jinnah, has foresight like Nehru, has good diplomatic skills like henry Kissinger.

 

[Hunzaghazi]

Pakistan generals are responsible for this.