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Our law will apply: India tells Italy
Last Updated: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 00:53 10
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New Delhi: Amid increased diplomatic pressure from Italy, India stood its ground on Wednesday and reiterated that its law would hold precedence in the case of killing of two Indian fishermen allegedly by Italian naval guards off the Kerala coast last week.

Speaking to reporters here after meeting visiting Italian Deputy Foreign Minister Staffan De Mistura, who rushed to the national capital this morning, Minister of State for External Affairs Preneet Kaur accepted the difference of opinion between the two sides but, importantly, denied any agreement between India and Italy on the matter.

“Our law will take its own course in the matter,” the MoS said.

Kaur said she assured Mistura that the Indian judiciary is very fair and free and would take the right decision on the incident.

According to the MoS, the Italian minister expressed regret over the incident and offered condolences to the families of the two fishermen.

Mistura is likely to visit Kerala today to meet authorities there. He is also likely to call on External Affairs Minister SM Krishna later in the day.

Italy rushed its deputy foreign minister for talks, to be followed by the visit of Foreign Minister Giulio Terzi on February 28, after New Delhi made it clear that it will go by its legal process.

Italy has demanded that the two Marines, currently in Kerala police’s custody, be tried by an international court.

Mistura will "continue on a political level the action so far carried out by a delegation of experts from the Italian Foreign, Defence and Justice Ministries", the Foreign Ministry in Rome said. "Minister Terzi will visit personally next Tuesday," it added.

Ajesh Binki, 25, and Gelastine, 45, were mistaken for pirates and shot dead by the Marines from the Italian cargo vessel on February 15, off Alappuzha in Kerala.



HC to hear petitions

Meanwhile, Italy raised the pitch over the killing of two Indian fishermen by its marines escalated by moving the Kerala High Court seeking quashing of murder charges against them and its visiting envoy demanding that truth be ascertained.

The family of Gelastine yesterday filed a petition in the High Court seeking a compensation of Rs 1 crore. The plea said the ship should not be allowed to leave Indian waters till the relief was paid.

A second petition on the incident was filed by A Basil, demanding that adequate compensation should be given to the family of the two fishermen.

Dolphin Tankers, the owners of the Italian cargo vessel, also filed a petition in the High Court that no fresh arrests should be made without hearing their version.

The Marines - Latorre Massimillano and Salvatore Girone - also moved the Kerala HC today to quash the first information report (FIR) charging them with the murder of two Indian fishermen at sea.

Reports further indicated that the Italian consulate may file a petition on Wednesday in the Kerala HC pointing out that since the incident took place in international waters, the case could not be tried in any court other than an international court of law.

Dispute over location of crime

Italian Foreign Minister Terzi had a telephonic chat with Krishna on Monday and insisted that the Italian ship was in international waters at the time the Marines opened fire, killing two Indian fishermen. Its location is a matter of dispute between the two countries.

India contests Italy's version and says any incident involving an Indian or an Indian vessel is subject to Indian law. "We have made it very clear to them (Italy) that as representatives of India, we will go by our legal process. Of course, there are differences of opinions," a government source said.

New Delhi has also stressed that the incident is at the stage of investigation, and Italy is free to present any issue of judicial nature through its legal counsel in the court, said the sources.

India has also conveyed to Italy that the arrested Marines could get consular access.

The two Italian Marines were picked up from the vessel on Sunday and arrested. A court near Kollam on Monday sent them to 14 days in custody, with the police given the first three days to interrogate them.

The Kollam chief judicial magistrate earlier gave Kollam police, who have taken over the investigation, a search warrant to look for the murder weapon on the Italian cargo vessel from where the two Marines fired.

Our law will apply: India tells Italy
 
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I am going to Kollam and Varkala beach on this weekend. Can i see those white as$es behind the bars :woot:
 
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The two Italian personnel have diplomatic immunity, the Indian Government should be lawful and mature and release them to Italian authorities. They work at the Italian embassy in New Delhi as distinguished respected diplomats.
 
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The two Italian personnel have diplomatic immunity, the Indian Government should be lawful and mature and release them to Italian authorities. They work at the Italian embassy in New Delhi as distinguished respected diplomats.

LOL, where did you learn all this? This is called manufacturing facts.

No, the italian personnel were not diplomats working in New Delhi, they were marines serving aboard a civilian ship. They do not enjoy any diplomatic immunity for murder.

Things work differently on this side of the border, foreigners can't shoot dead our citizens and then expect to happily go back to their homes and families, like it happens on your streets.

Anyway, stop making up fiction that they have immunity or that they are "distinguished respected diplomats".
 
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LOL, where did you learn all this? This is called manufacturing facts.

No, the italian personnel were not diplomats working in New Delhi, they were marines serving aboard a civilian ship. They do not enjoy any diplomatic immunity for murder.

Things work differently on this side of the border, foreigners can't shoot dead our citizens and then expect to happily go back to their homes and families, like it happens on your streets.

Anyway, stop making up fiction that they have immunity or that they are "distinguished respected diplomats".


Have a sense of humour...


Things work differently on this side of the border, foreigners can't shoot dead our citizens and then expect to happily go back to their homes and families, like it happens on your streets.

If these were US diplomats they would be released and you know it.
 
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these guys are fucked. they will probably rot in india jails for years and case will go on and on.. remember puralia case where russians were involved. the russian guy asked to be killed to relieve from misery. all this happend to them when they didnt even killed anyone but just droped weapons in india soil. when we didnt even spared our best friends of the time russians who are these italians. india is not pakistan
 
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The two Italian personnel have diplomatic immunity, the Indian Government should be lawful and mature and release them to Italian authorities. They work at the Italian embassy in New Delhi as distinguished respected diplomats.

PLEASE PROVIDE A SOURCE?

I have been following up on the news constantly on NDTV and timesnow, nowhere did I hear they have diplomatic immunity. If you’re drawing any similarities to the Raymond Davies SAGA please think again (this is not a case of calling a spade for a spade) this is India not Pakistan and the GOI can’t be bought out by the CIA or Italian government.

Hard to compered BUT ITS A FACT.
 
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they will probably get life sentences and rot in jail for about ten years and then get presidential pardon. this is most probable outcome of this case
 
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If these were US diplomats they would be released and you know it.

I don't know it. Could you explain what makes you say that? And I'm assuming you are talking about India, not pakistan. Has any cold blooded murderers (who actually and unquestionably shot Indians dead) ever been allowed to go back because of diplomatic pressure? What is the basis on which you make this bald assertion, anything in our previous track record?

Don't judge the self respect that other countries have by the standards you set for your own country. Most countries won't allow murderers to go free because of diplomatic pressure. India is too big and too independent for any country to apply that kind of pressure on us. Only a few countries in the world are so dependant and reliant on other countries that they allow that to happen.
 
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The two Italian personnel have diplomatic immunity, the Indian Government should be lawful and mature and release them to Italian authorities. They work at the Italian embassy in New Delhi as distinguished respected diplomats.

No they are blackwater jihadist's :thank_you2:
 
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Do you know that these guys are not put behind bars despite the court order to take custody. They are happily staying in govt CISF guest house enjoying Pizza,Pasta,Spaghetti and ravioli with wine. So yes, Italian diplomacy has worked atleast for now.

I guess the ruling cong coalition govt does not want to treat Italians bad! ;)
 
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