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Our fight is not for Kashmir, it’s for Islam: Hizbul commander

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Bzzzzzt! Bzzzzzt! Crap Alert! Crap Alert!

Remember the failure of 1965 Operation Gibraltar: Kashmiris were presumed to respond with popular support to Pakistani infiltration of the border and revolt against India. It didn't happen.

Z. A. Bhutto explained it away quite simply in his 1967 book The Myth of Independence: that Kashmiris desired independence from India was an article of faith among Pakistanis.

It had nothing to do with the wishes of the Kashmiris themselves.

Your interest and pro RSS agenda tells me you are hindu jew from around Mumbai who migrated to Israel/USA.

Even if 100% occupied Kashmiris don't want to join Pakistan, that doesn't change the fact that 100% of them are not willing to live under hindu occupation either. Why is that even Indian puppets in IoK are against removal of article 370? Clearly they will milk India but are not willing to sacrifice IoK as integrated part of India.

Tell me you as hindu/jew will willingly live under ISIS?
 
Freedom is a noble cause - even if you are on the other side of the fence, you do understand why a particular region wants "freedom". This is because of denial of rights.
Clearly, this has never been the case in Kashmir. Kashmiris have enjoyed equal rights - heck even more when you consider that non-Kashmiris can't buy land in Kashmir but Kashmiris can buy land anywhere in India.
Fact is - Muslim residents of the valley drove out the Hindu residents almost overnight - would that have happened if the much maligned Indian Army was around?
 
They will only end up dead and buried

They will achieve nothing
What we believe is,

"If the world is counted valuable; surely the house of God's rewards is higher and more worthy. If bodies were created for death; surely being killed with swords in the way of God is a more honorable death. If the share of daily sustenance, of each creature is provided by the creator, surely it is not descent for man to be greedy for gaining and eating too much. If wealth is amassed for one day to be left. Then why a free man becomes so miser on something he has to leave". Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A
"To me , death is nothing but happiness, and living under tyrants nothing but living in a hell." Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A
 
Nothing wrong in what he said. Fighting for separate Kashmiri muslim homeland is same as fighting for Kashmir. Remember IoK is muslim majority region and they will obviously not want to live under RSS hindu dominated government. I ask hindus if you guys are willing to live under ISIS?

Maybe comprehension problem he sad fight for Islam not for nationalism. Do you believe fighting for Islam if more important than Fighting for nation..Your view is eagerly waited by Pakistan Military:sick:
 
Fact is - Muslim residents of the valley drove out the Hindu residents almost overnight - would that have happened if the much maligned Indian Army was around?
well wonder ,how they are morally qualified to fight for so called freedom while denying the freedom of others.
 
The wolf comes out of the sheep skin.
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india Updated: Mar 16, 2017 13:48 IST
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Ashiq Hussain
Hindustan Times, Srinagar
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Zakir Rashid Bhat, said to be around 22 years, was a student of civil engineering in Chandigarh before he returned to his ancestral village Noorpura in Pulwama in 2013 and joined the Hizbul Mujahideen.(Video Grab)
Top Hizbul Mujahideen (HM) commander Zakir Rashid Bhat has purportedly come out with a new video where he is heard saying the militancy should not aim to create a new nation of Kashmir but for the supremacy of Islam.

The 11-minute grainy video message was full of Islamic injunctions but surprisingly devoid of words like ‘Azadi’ or ‘Pakistan’.

In the video which went viral on social media on Wednesday, the 23-year-old Bhat urges youth who throw stones at security forces to “check their intent”.

“I want to tell my stone-pelting brothers that they should check their motives as to why they are fighting when they pick up stones (against Indian forces). I want to tell these brothers that they should not fall for nationalism,” he said.

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Bhat along with another commander Sabzar Ahmad have emerged as the successors to Hizbul commander Burhan Wani whose death last July triggered massive protests in Kashmir valley that claimed at least 90 lives and left thousands injured.

After leaving engineering to join militancy in 2013, Bhat came out with his first video message in August 2016 asking the people of Kashmir to continue the agitation till the region achieves its goal of “azadi”.


In the latest video, Bhat said that he has observed that most of the people in Kashmir were involved in a nationalistic fight which was ‘haraam (not permissible)’ in Islam. “Nationalism and democracy are not permissible in Islam,” said Bhat.

The militancy in Kashmir started after the pro-independence Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front took to arms with slogans like ‘Is paar bhi lenge, Azadi; Us paar bhi lenge, Azadi’ (We will achieve freedom on this side of border as well as on the other side of border). However the group was soon outflanked by many pro-Islamic and pro-Pakistan groups like HM, Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen and Al-Jihad.

“When we pick up stones or guns it should not be with this intention that we are fighting for Kashmir (as a nation). The sole motive should be for the supremacy of Islam so that Shariah is established here,” Bhat said whose HM is the only surviving indigenous group of Kashmir.

In an indirect dig at separatists leaders, Bhat said people had put their trust on the UN (United Nations) and United States. “We should surrender before Allah and see how help arrives. But we have expectations from UN and USA,” he said.

Among the separatist leaders, hardliner Syed Ali Geelani and women group leader Asiya Andrabi have been openly Islamic and pro-Pakistan. Shabir Shah has been maintaining that people should be the sole judge to decide their fate. While JKLF Chief Yasin Malik has been a supporter of Kashmiri nationalism.

The militant commander also targeted local police and informers for their “anti Islamic acts of joining the evil”. “I am advising them to come back. You have joined them so you are same for us; whether police or army,” Bhat said.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...n-new-video/story-qj3PImqAJlEodFP01z9PLL.html




Good for him and his followers, best of luck.
 
Freedom is a noble cause - even if you are on the other side of the fence, you do understand why a particular region wants "freedom". This is because of denial of rights.
Clearly, this has never been the case in Kashmir. Kashmiris have enjoyed equal rights - heck even more when you consider that non-Kashmiris can't buy land in Kashmir but Kashmiris can buy land anywhere in India.
Fact is - Muslim residents of the valley drove out the Hindu residents almost overnight - would that have happened if the much maligned Indian Army was around?

I hope you don't actually believe in that. Human rights in IoK :lol:
 
Most kashmiris are perfectly happy living on indian soil and indian land and with indian passport

Those that are not HAPPY have the choice to change that status by moving to another country without indian passport.........Nobody IN india will stop them.

THERE WILL NO REDRAWING OF BOUNDERIES
 
Yet another nail in the coffin of Kashmiri Independence. The moment you focus on the religious aspect, you lose legitimacy.

The zionists did this to the poor Palestinians - for whom the battle is not about religion, but truly independence (seeing as a significant portion of the Palestinian population is Christian!)

But the Israelis have, falsely, time and time again in the media tied it with islamist movements - and with the western media being full of scumbags...they have succeded.

Here we have a Kashmiri militant leader openly proclaiming this is about religion...talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Imbecile :lol: :lol:
At the surface level it might look like a stupid statement but if you analyze it deeper you will see more things. This comes in at a time when pakistan is officially annexing gilgit & baltistan and making it their fifth province. Now their proxies have to change the tack to follow that line.
 
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Your faith blinds you. It is to Z.A.B.'s eternal discredit that rather than use his knowledge and experience to enlighten his countrymen he applied himself to dominate them instead and even generations later subjects like you are the result.

Why not ask me if, as an American, I'm willing to live under a Republican or Democratic president?

I'm not religious but believe Kashmiris shouldn't be forced to live under hindustan where cow is safer then muslim. They are not minority but majority in their native lands. Some dalit/shudra in Delhi can't decide what they should do or eat to please hindus.
 
Most kashmiris are perfectly happy living on indian soil and indian land and with indian passport

Those that are not HAPPY have the choice to change that status by moving to another country without indian passport.........Nobody IN india will stop them.

THERE WILL NO REDRAWING OF BOUNDERIES

Says the person who does not live in India, if you have groups like these popping up then it's obvious they aren't happy on their own soil(Not indian) because they are occupied.
 
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